Was not the point of musk that there was no actual proof he was a nazi / white supremacy at that time and that a single report form a source which is extremely left wing to take with a grain of salt ?
In some way I've always found it made no sense to take pathological people such as lone shooters, or even ISIS/"islamic" terror attack in europe and trying to make political analysis from this. It just doesn't make sense to me and I feel that people who do it are kinda manipulating events to advance their agenda or generation media attention. "Another crazy person shoot some people" is sure less catchy but maybe more true ?
Not trying to defend musk, I'm 100% out of the loop and didn't even read his tweets, only trying to find another explanation that "he's a fascist" or "he's dumb"
It's become a pattern of behavior with Musk to sow doubt this way. To me he doesn't just come off as a good steward. He's obviously aware of the ability of his tweets to direct a spotlight on things, and his bent becomes apparent after you watch him do it repeatedly. Sometimes it's random Doge pushes and TSLA rallies, other times it's used to direct his massive audience toward particular conclusions, but with some plausible deniability thrown in.
As an advice, if you're "out of the loop," maybe not try to defend a person everyone says has become a fascist sociopath.
Unless you are very well in the loop, but the loop of casting doubt on all these accusations as the "far-left" going crazy, which I guarantee is certainly not happening.
Well not "everyone" says he is a fascist sociopath precisely and there are so many hyperboles thrown at each other in american political parties that doubt is nothing but sane.
And I also stand by my other point, that calling a tatooed redneck with mental illness "white supremacist" as if he was a normal member of a political movement is maybe not the best apporach (and I say the same for "islamic" attacks).
edit: Also i'm confused where he's "defending" the guy
Would this “tattooed redneck” that we shouldn’t call a “white supremacist” be the same person with a literal nazi swastika and SS runes tattoos, and a “RWDS” (Right Wing Death Squad) patch?
Jesus man. What more would it take to call him a neo-nazi white supremacist? A notarized letter found on his body, that was penned in his own hand?
And who the said he was mentally ill? We’ve had way too many shooters — including far right terrorists — that were not mentally ill committing mass murder.
I'm sorry you don't understand my point so let me expand:
- He is definitely a white supremacist, in the sense he adheres to hateful texts and probably calls/called himself that along with some other friends.
- Simply, white supremacism (or black supremacim, chinese, muslim or jewish supremacim) are in most case not real political movements but minorities of angry people with (similar) mental illness who act on their mental illness with the random tribe they feel they belong. (cf this testimony https://www.mmaindia.com/sean-strickland-opens-up-about-his-...)
- If you however are a functional member of the society, insisting on calling random shooters by their random political affiliation instead or their mental illness which is the primary factor is, if technically right, missing the point of the fact that weapons should not be given to mad people in general, and has also a tendency to stew political tensions.
- This is not a defense of white supremacism or shooters. Im french said the same when there was "islamic attacks" and people were weaponizing the fact they were mulslim for political purpose when in reality is was a bunch of angry 19 y.o. fanatazised by angry 60 y.o. imams with similar kinds mental illnesses.
In some way I've always found it made no sense to take pathological people such as lone shooters, or even ISIS/"islamic" terror attack in europe and trying to make political analysis from this. It just doesn't make sense to me and I feel that people who do it are kinda manipulating events to advance their agenda or generation media attention. "Another crazy person shoot some people" is sure less catchy but maybe more true ?
Not trying to defend musk, I'm 100% out of the loop and didn't even read his tweets, only trying to find another explanation that "he's a fascist" or "he's dumb"