Wasn't it proven that the US does this since a long time and whistleblowers lives ruined? Obama even has given an apologetic speech for it?
I'm not supporting this but if it will happen I would prefer it happening openly within a legal framework.
I don't get the appeal for it being done by secret services instead of civil services. I guess it's about different relationship with the governments.
Yesterday I saw a tweet from Paul Graham calling European AI startups to pre-emptively move to the US because of some EU regulation draft, today top topics here are about OpenAI speaking with the US government trying to scare them into requiring licensing to work on AI.
Maybe the contrast between US/EU is not as stark as the narrative makes it appear.
Yeah I was always thinking the same. They must be jealous about the enormous surveillance power that accumulated in the US for over 2 decades.
Thing is: If the strategy is to have total surveillance based on an open legal framework then they should actively market it as that. I _might_ even agree with that. But given they're BSing us with "protect the children" I cannot help but see them as bad actors doing stupid/evil sh*t.
I agree with the point about the hypocrisy around all these things. It just fuels straight into the distrust machine.
But I am not sure whether it is about jealousy of the US as such, but perhaps more about alleged or real fears about the domestic instability of the US, its commitment to Europe, and the shifting landscape in the great power politics game. Therefore, there are already open proposals to create a "European CIA":
I'm not supporting this but if it will happen I would prefer it happening openly within a legal framework.
I don't get the appeal for it being done by secret services instead of civil services. I guess it's about different relationship with the governments.
Yesterday I saw a tweet from Paul Graham calling European AI startups to pre-emptively move to the US because of some EU regulation draft, today top topics here are about OpenAI speaking with the US government trying to scare them into requiring licensing to work on AI.
Maybe the contrast between US/EU is not as stark as the narrative makes it appear.