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> I looked into these guys recently. I do think their heart is in the right place. Like it's obviously a small operation, but I think that's all the better. We don't need another Mozilla foundation. But being small their marketing is a bit sparse and engineer:y so I'll take the opportunity to shill a bit.

Mozilla Foundation has large overhead on management (CEO getting more while people getting fired), and it has that structure of a non-profit within a for-profit of the same name/brand.

For organizations providing grants, I don't think Mozilla even does that? Unless you mean stuff which is brought under the umbrella of Mozilla. Even YC and Google provide grants, its just with a twist (not selfless with the kicker being private equity). For an organization which provides selfless grants, there's for example the Dutch NLnet Foundation [1]. Which also falls under a different jurisdiction which can be a pro or con.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NLnet




I'm contrasting them to the Mozilla Foundation specifically in the sense that it's very administration heavy, and produces an insane amount of hot air and marketing fluff (that aligns relatively poorly with its actions).

FUTO seems diametrically opposite in that it's ostensibly run by a small number of tech people.

NLnet is cool too. They seem relatively similar to FUTO in terms of goals, but they've been around for decades and it shows. Dunno how to describe them other than that they're very streamlined. Still also very low-nonsense and the people you interact with as a grantee are technologists and not bureaucrats.


> For organizations providing grants, I don't think Mozilla even does that?

https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/what-we-fund/




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