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The fact that you’re dismissing such violence as a “relatively minor fuckup” is sort of the point OP is making..

Guantanamo and these black sites have been in operation for decades.



It's relatively minor fuckup compared to the oppression of millions and even billions. Russia has been responsible for deaths of hundreds of thousands in a year and you're focusing on single instance of terrorist torture here - which I agree is wrong and perpetrators should be tried and locked - but does not make "USA" or "west" anywhere close to them.




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