"Do you know how many people from Countries such as Canada Germany and the UK come to the US for treatment because they cant get it at home?"
Do you know how many people from the US can't go for treatments in the US because they can't afford it? Many.
I am from Germany and I can tell you that I have never heard of anybody going to the US for treatment. Maybe some millionaires do this but certainly not the average citizen. Do you know how many people are in medical debt in the US vs Germany? Do you know which country has higher life expectancy?
How many and for what treatments? I want details and specific numbers. And how does that compare to the number of people who go to Eastern Europe and Latin American for medical care they can't afford in the US?
Drive into any cancer clinic in south Florida and count the number of Canadian vehicle plates (most of them are very nice cars so these are people with means). Single payer systems doesnt mean equal access. Quite the contrary actually.
Don't most Canadians carry some form of private insurance? Why would they do that if healthcare is "free"?
If you're truly committed to defending insurance companies, so be it, but you should try to offering something other than anecdotes about some cars you see. Medical debt is a huge burden in this country, not only in terms of families struggling financially, but in terms of people avoiding or postponing needed treatments due to cost.
Drive to any supermarket and you'll see the same Canadian plates. They don't come all the way to the US for the food. South Florida is a vacation destination for Canadians; while a few may come for medical treatment, the vast majority come for the warm weather.
Standarduser, can you answer my question as to who administers the plans? I'll wait patiently. Maybe that will shine light on my 50 statement for you.
As for your other statements, where's your proof? I offered plenty of proof for my comments.
edit: 1 hour, no answer from Standardtroll. The answer is private companies such as Centene and Humana. The common element in the answer is each State regulates Medicaid and Medicare. Federal Government reimburses States via the issuance of debt. Medicaid is Free or extremely low cost. So for all the Europoors, you can have your cake here too!
You're offering nothing but false choices and strawmen. No data, no coherent argument, just a vague list of inefficiencies and concerns and some literal nonsense about license plates. Dozens of wealthy nations have healthcare systems that provide better outcomes with minimal debt. To not look at those systems for a better way to craft out own system would be idiotic.
And what is the cryptic "Fifty Sovereign States" supposed to mean exactly?
Do you know how many people from Countries such as Canada Germany and the UK come to the US for treatment because they cant get it at home?
No, I do not. Do you? I ask because every person, to a woman and a man, who says something along these lines has yet to even try and provide a number ("well...it's a lot.").
I mean, I see folks on this very page mentioning some medical tourism to SE Asia. But I'm trying to remember if I've ever seen someone mention travel to the U. S. for medical treatment because the medical system in their shitty European socialist hellscape is lacking.
There's about 6 times as many hospitals in the US as in Canada, including some of the best research hospitals in the world, so naturally those with means would seek specialized treatment in many cases. But it's just one little piece of the puzzle. What about the many Americans who travel overseas for healthcare?
There you go about time you coughed up some links. Please be my guest go to a third world country for cheap care. Unfortunately your precious big government throw's caution to that wind!
Your second link, I'd love to see what access is restricted. Nearly all restrictions in the US are because of the FDA.
Most medical tourism is for cosmetic surgery (which is elective and therefore not covered, I don't care what country or insurance plan you have, generally not covered). I don't need that, I'll stay in the States, thanks.
