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If Cloudflare has decided that Firefox is a "non-mainstream browser" and is applying a penalty to its users, then Cloudflare is the problem.



The end user chose to use Firefox. The service provider is free to do as they please, it's their infrastructure and your access to it is at their discretion.

Don't like it? Use Privacy Pass or pick another set of compromises.

With that said, when I was still willing to subject myself to Mozilla in any form, I never found CloudFlare to be a problem, and I've used it since it launched. If people use Firefox, they're probably a privacy wonk LARPing an imagined threat model, and are using a shitty cheap VPN used by countless attackers, it's unlikely to be the browser itself unless they're doing something weird with extensions.


> Don't like it? Use Privacy Pass or pick another set of compromises

Nah. I'll just not use the website. They obviously don't want me there anyway.


I've done this, with CAPTCHA screens and advertiser-induced cookie stalking. The worst offenders end up in PiHole.

I'm sure nobody cares about my blocks, but we've got to start somewhere if we want websites to change their behaviour.


And yet only the other day you posted a link to a site behind CloudFlare: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=35643933

I'm confident you use CloudFlare every day, many times per day.


I'm sure I do. What I meant was that when I hit a snag with a captcha, I'll just move on. I'm not going to wrestle with it. I can take a hint.


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> If people use Firefox, they're probably a privacy wonk LARPing an imagined threat model, and are using a shitty cheap VPN used by countless attackers

What kind of nonsense is this? Firefox is a mainstream browser used by millions of people every day. Maybe you're confusing it with Tor?




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