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And one needs to understand that "base load" is mostly a concept important for slow, bad to regulate power plants. In those times, a lot of effort was spent on creating "base load" so the power plants have the least requirement for regulation. This will switch to more agile consumption where you get much cheaper electricity when you can time your consumption. So the amount of energy which was previously part of "base load" will be reduced considerably.



> base load" is mostly a concept important for slow, bad to regulate power plants.

You've just described renewables.

> So the amount of energy which was previously part of "base load" will be reduced considerably.

There's a minimum of required electricity that you have to provide every day, and you can't escape that.


Thanks for showing your skewed view on things.

No, renewables are easy to regulate and nothing about them is slow. You can regulate solar in milliseconds, wind in a couple of seconds. They don't have to produce when there is no demand.

And yes, you have to provide as much electricity as is pulled from the grid. But that does no longer have to be done in a constant fashion as with nuclear and coal. That is why I write that "base load" is reduced. Overall energy consumption isn't. It will actually rise with the electrification of mobility and heating. That is, why there is a need for a huge buildup of renewables.


> No, renewables are easy to regulate and nothing about them is slow.

Renewables are among the slowest power sources to ramp up production. Which is complicated by the fact that they are intermittent.

> That is, why there is a need for a huge buildup of renewables.

1. At what cost

2. What happens to generation on a quiet night?


Your arguments are fueled by a lack of understanding.

Ramping down renewables is lots faster and easier. The stability argument is just populistic bullshit. Plausible on the surface, not a concern in actual practice. You are acting like those who plan and build this renewable capacity never thought of that.

The goal with renewables is to reduce the total emissions. There are still plenty of years left in that process before you even need any storage to cover capacity fluctuation. Because even when covering SOME extra capacity with fossil fuels SOME of the times, total emissions are still getting reduced. Is it that some people just want to ignore that a coal plant that doesn't produce energy also doesn't produce emissions?


> Ramping down renewables is lots faster and easier.

Ramp me up solar production in midnight.


> Ramping down renewables is lots faster and easier.

And the source for this is? Because reality seems to disagree with you

> The stability argument is just populistic bullshit. Plausible on the surface, not a concern in actual practice

You're surprised that renewable energy is intermittent and you need to significantly overbuild them?

> You are acting like those who plan and build this renewable capacity never thought of that.

So many decisions in this space are made purely for political points, so you can see how yes, people who are building this rarely if ever talk abou this.

> The goal with renewables is to reduce the total emissions.

Note how if you don't shut down nuclear power plants you don't need to burn coal to make up for the difference.




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