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The build quality of Apple software is horrible. Really terrible. That's why I avoid their phones.

Their laptops on the the other hand have a sleep state that works and the battery lasts >8 hrs even when heavily used. Mine is giving the service warning but still lasts longer than any Windows or Linux machine I've ever used (and it doesn't empty itself when the shell is closed).




> Their laptops on the the other hand have a sleep state that works

Mostly & sometimes. I'm unable wake up M1 MBP when docked in clamshell mode to a TB dock, once it blanked the screen, but didn't go to full sleep yet. Either put it into full sleep (=> turn off the monitor, it will notice and go to sleep) and then wake it up, or undock it and wake it up undocked. In both cases, it will lose all peripherals attached to dock (like ethernet) while doing the exercise. Pretty annoying actually, and it didn't happen with Intel Macs.


I've had three Macbooks (M1 MBA, M1 MBP, Intel) with no issues. I have never had a Windows laptop (Dell, Lenovo, IBM) and none have ever worked.


I've had two Macbooks (2012 MBP, M1 Air) with no issues. I've had Lenovo laptops going back to 2005 with most of those machines running great --almost as great as the Apple machines do.

Got a coffee spill on my 2012 MBP and Apple didn't really want to fix it. I was quoted nearly a new machine. I bought parts myself, fixed it for $150 and some (intense) labor. Apple really doesn't want me doing that. Had it happen again a few years later. Parts were HARD to get, and so... yeah, that one is in a box now.

Lenovo doesn't seem to care. Parts are inexpensive, I've had to do a few more repairs, but they were not hard. I can still get parts for my Lenovo machines.

For a lot of reasons my daily driver remains Lenovo. I do use my Apple a lot more than I used to now however...

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Lenovo takes a beating better than Apple does. Apple is very petty


Which Lenovo models / lines? I'd very much like to move away from Apple for my make work horse, I've been waiting for Framework to provide a good AMD option and fix the sleep (so I can close the kid on Friday and continue on Monday with little battery loss).

I've also repaired my MBA - it's an Apple so obviously something is designed to break after 18 months. In this case it's the USB-C adapter. Thankfully they're cheap and easy to replace. The experience is shocking though.


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Somehow, that post got mangled and I missed the edit window. Please delete it, and thanks in advance.


> I have never had a Windows laptop (Dell, Lenovo, IBM) and none have ever worked.

Well, of course Windows laptops that you have never had aren't going to work...


Similar, my MBP 14 takes a long time to wake up when connected to a studio display and I need it to wake up quickly, then wakes up every time I just walk past the desk when I want it to stay off.

My work HP Chromebook also takes a long time to wake up in the morning, so they all feel very familiar to me, I'm no different.




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