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no, that is not what i mean to say

at scale, it is not possible for humans to hand-write C programs that are free of segmentation fault class errors

this is not controversial or in any way arguable




Your opinion is common here. However, you can't just say your opinion is the consensus and that makes people who have other experiences wrong, end of debate. Popularity doesn't indicate truth. I'm sorry you haven't seen it working well, but there are counterexamples where people are productive with a relatively low number of issues.


Sel4 would like to have a word.

Inb4 you move the goalposts for "at scale". This is an operating system with capability-based access control which is not something that most operating systems even have.

Also the cryptographic constraints are part of the proof system.


I'm not sure Sel4 can be considered "at scale", given the rather extreme amount of effort that went into it.


you just moved the goalposts.




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