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I guess your view is that if a new thing is approximately as terrible as an existing thing, then it's fine. Mine is that new things are a rare opportunity to make the world less terrible, so we should take a swing at it.



Fair position, but I say: What is somewhat rare is the opportunity to make large changes, but it's usually a false opportunity because large changes are generally ill-advised. However, large changes aren't the only ones we can make: We can and should always improve and if we do the improvements don't need to be large. That this is good because large improvements often don't work-- because people route around them due to their cost or unfamiliarity-- or don't do what we thought they'd do-- because we're not as smart as we think we are and we can easily make things worse through our efforts to do better.

So that's why I suggest things like I think it would be reasonable to put LLMs behind education in a way that we don't for search boxes or URL bars. I think anything we do to make us all more savvy consumers of information makes the world less terrible. Yet it's an improvement that is unlikely to backfire, doesn't present much incentive to route around, still effective if routed around somewhat, doesn't significantly impede forward progress, or increase costs tremendously.

I can empathize with the frustration that there are so many unfixed things that can be improved, but I'm confident in mankind that if we all keep nudging in the right direction that we'll get there-- and get there sooner than we would by attempting a Great Leap Forward that has too great a chance of disaster, too great a chance of stopping our progress, setting us back, or coming at too great a cost.

Like in software where the most complex code you can write is code you can't debug/maintain because you've got to be 10x smarter to debug it than write it, in our cultural progress we can imagine advances so much greater than we can accomplish safely and sustainably in practice. But what we can accomplish brought us to where we are now and we should feel proud of it and confident in the future, and know that no matter how much better we make things we'll still think they're terrible and find ways to improve things.


You seem to be going around to everyone who replied to you yesterday and responding in anger. If you're having a bad day, it might be better to not reply.


wpietri's response to me was in no way in anger, and his position in it is a perfectly legitimate one.


I definitely took reducing your entire comment to to "I guess your view is that if a new thing is approximately as terrible as an existing thing, then it's fine." as not coming a place of good faith, but maybe I'm being harsh




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