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That wasn't the point. Visa and master getting more and more irrelevant and porn Industrie being once again a driving factor in this process is a good thing.

The point was that there is no reason to blame the current PH for their ethical standards, or rather that I think we should appreciate good standards and make them an actual standard instead of playing the blame game



> That wasn't the point.

What's the point then? It's not "puritan pandering".

They screwed up as a company, and other companies stopped working with them. Because they cleaned up their act doesn't mean those same companies are required to come back to the table otherwise it's puritan pandering. Because they now have "ethical standards" does not mean the context of how they ended up in this situation suddenly poofs.


> Because they cleaned up their act doesn't mean those same companies are required to come back to the table otherwise

on the other hand if there is no benefit to cleaning up ones act why ever do it?




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