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Have you read the book? What I remember is that it took 5000 years for the transition to happen, and that human went back in forth with the two systems. That was far from a black and white transition.

Hunther gatherer knew about farming and were actually farming

Also: trash and bones of the two groups indicate that farming was more subject to instability and shortage of nutrients. ( as backward as it sound for us )

Where does the Marxism come into play ?


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You may have a point, but your terminology is off. Graeber was decidedly against the prevailing economic system, but he was not a Marxist:

"He was an anarchist from the age of 16, according to an interview he gave to The Village Voice in 2005."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Graeber


OK. Maybe "post-modern" sums it up better? Definitely writing with an agenda.

"That hunter-gatherer lifestyle was so nice: people would never give it up unless they were compelled!"

OK, that rates a blog post. Not a whole book.


You're missing a lot of nuance. Graebers work is great. Tons of evidence-based discussions and thorough logic. What you've written here is even really deserving of a forum post.


A Marxist wouldn't have written a book called Bullshit Jobs, since the implication "workers don't do anything useful" isn't very Marxist.


Ok, so, he wrote another book with a bad name hence this other one is bad too. Nice logic.

I had no idea that scott wrote « bullshit job » haha.

But since he’s also the chair of agrarian studies at Yale since the 90´s… I will trust him of history of agriculture.

Even he might chalenge the holy Washington consensus on economics.


> Ok, so, he wrote another book with a bad name hence this other one is bad too. Nice logic.

Did I say that…?

I think generally people have useful jobs (to someone) but that doesn't stop them from complaining about it.


Yeah but that chain of comments was originally talking about James C. Scott "against the grain". A historian specialized in early agricultural history and thus relevant here in that comment section about early human history.

I even got confused and thought that Scott wrote "bullshit job", but it's Graeber.

In regards to jobs: I think it's perfectly conceivable that one job is useful to a few, but generally pointless for society.


Catchy title.




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