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Your denial of plain facts is what’s “incredibly dangerous”


Everybody on this thread so far has provided anecdotes and opinions. There's nary a fact in sight. So, let's go with at least one fact site: https://www.city-data.com/crime/crime-San-Francisco-Californ...

At least based on that data set (and it's easy to find disagreeing data sets), murders are actually below average.

But the problem is: There isn't a definitive data source. The FBIs UCR[1] is closest, but because they split by agency, it's hard to find relevant geographic data. For SF, you're looking at BART Alamenda, BART Contra Costa, SF County Highway Patrol, BART SF, SF Sheriff's office, SFPD, SF State University,Union Pacific Railroad, UCLA SF, San Mateo BART, South SF PD, Santa Clara BART. (If the US stopped encouraging everybody to play cops and robbers on their own, that'd be nice)

But even if you settle for one of them, data is only reported up to 2021, and that means graphs stop at 2020. It's almost as if there was profit in making current crime a matter of opinion instead of facts.But for the data set? Violent crime is down.

Fine, let's ask sfgov.org then: https://sfgov.org/scorecards/public-safety/violent-crime-rat...

Turns out, homicide is pretty much stable over the last decade. Same for aggravated assault.Rape is down to 2010 levels again. Robbery is down. None of the numbers are significantly up.

This might be more dangerous than other cities, but it's at current levels for a long while now.

[1] https://cde.ucr.cjis.gov/LATEST/webapp/#/pages/explorer/crim...


Note that whenever you are looking at homicide numbers over a period of decades, you have to factor in the advances in medical technology that have made huge improvements in the number of people who survive being shot.

When you look at the statistics you see that shootings have gone up markedly.


Apparently Murder is the only crime relevant to SF residents? The fact that SF is top 5 in Property crime per capita in the entire nation is irrelevant?


Can you provide data that supports your opinion that violent crime per capita is higher?




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