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If you have recommendations I'd love to know of them, but my search has come up empty.

There's a world of difference between a 10 second TikTok clip and a 25 minute episode of some show. The latter used to be enough time to get an entire day's worth of news not too long ago. So I don't think that the medium fundamentally needs to be movie length to be effective.

I suspect it's simply the case that shorter, more information-dense content takes a longer time to produce. It's a lot easier to have a 3 hour conversation with someone and dump it online. And I understand that there's an audience for just that. I do also think that there's a huge gap for short form podcast content waiting to be filled.




Pattern Recognition is the most similar to a "Lex style interview show" but there are many episodes in the 20-40 min range. Mostly with founders of companies. Really really good interviews. https://open.spotify.com/show/3Q267Ar7l43e1NeQIvUanv?si=2b7e...

Indicator by Planet Money is 15 mins with news about the economy in a fun way

Adam Grant's podcast has a bunch of episodes that are 40-45 mins about organizational psych that are awesome. This is the highly produced one you are looking for https://open.spotify.com/show/0uFXKiNiC05GOrjE9AXnkn?si=2172...

HBR's ideacast presents an idea in a rigorous info dense way in 20-40 mins https://open.spotify.com/show/4gtSBBxIAE142ApX6LqsvN?si=6fe6...

Paid ones: https://dithering.fm/ Ben Thompson and John Gruber have a 15 min conversation about latest strategy and tech news.

The Stratechery podcsast (ben reads articles) is about 15-20 mins.

There are tons and tons of any style you want. Just tried to choose some that matched business/founder/interview/idea that this one hit on.


Right; but there’s also a big difference between scrolling 25 second TikTok videos and settling in to listen to a 2 hour podcast with interesting people. I think the latter is better for our brains somehow. I don’t think the highly produced nature of TikTok makes it “better”.

As for 25 minute, produced podcasts? I really enjoy The Economist‘s Intelligence podcast for that. It’s definitely in the middle ground. Each episode is about 25 minutes. They’re tightly produced. They come out every week day. And each episode talks about 3 things going on in the world. If that’s what you’re looking for, give it a try!




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