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In other countries, working at McDonalds you get pension time (better, I'd say, than any 401k match) and more weeks of PTO than most Americans do. These rights were "magically conjured" either by the legislature or labor action.



You can get that at fast food places or corporate coffee chains in the US as well. What you can’t get is PTO for working 10 hours a week whenever you feel like it.


And no one is saying that. It's "if you work enough hours that you're effectively part or full time then you get benefits" which is how lots of employer arrangements work now. One of my friends is a therapist and their arrangement is have a case-load of more than 30 hours get benefits.


That might be a defensible position to take, but it's simply false that "no one is saying that." AB5, which this ballot prop is a response to, absolutely says that: https://www.investopedia.com/california-assembly-bill-5-ab5-... There is no minimum time worked.


Pension time is not a gift, it is money being stolen from the worker and transferred to the rulers and to the elderly, with no trustable guarantee of the worker ever getting anything back.

With that said, working at McDonalds and paying a pension is completely different than working a gig job, because you are expected to work when scheduled and will be fired if you don't, while an Uber driver works when he sees fit.


> With that said, working at McDonalds and paying a pension is completely different than working a gig job, because you are expected to work when scheduled and will be fired if you don't, while an Uber driver works when he sees fit.

While McDonalds might expect their employees to work a regular schedule, it's very common in the service industry for the schedule to depend on the employee's acceptance of the shift. The employee might commit to working a particular day in advance but it's very similar to the Uber/Lyft situation.


From what I know it's pretty much one way in the service industry. The boss decides the schedule and will get rid of you if you don't adhere. With Uber it is explicit and expected that drivers only work when they feel like.


It really depends on the place. I've never encountered one where the manager had total control over who was working when. Availability would be requested before creating the schedule and one would be made up based on that. Even then, if you found you were scheduled for shifts you couldn't work you could request a change. Good managers would arrange it themselves, otherwise you'd have to organise a swap.

That's not to say they don't exist. Some managers will certainly retaliate against employees who don't conform.




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