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Serious question, how do you "ensure diversity"? How do you even define diversity? I agree with the other things you said.


In practice, diversity usually means "not white".


You're basically right. My gripe is that, who decides who is "white"? Are Jews white? Are Irish? Are Ukrainians? Are Mexicans? Maybe they are now, but it wasn't necessarily the case twenty, thirty, or fifty years ago.

And so what if we are mixed-race? What if we are a quarter white? Do we really want to go down this rabbit hole of racial politics? This is exactly what the Nazis did...as did slave-owning Southerners. Maybe in the long run it's better if we just... keep race out of the question, and treat people like _individuals_.

Anyway, I hope that doesn't sound too argumentative or bombastic. I just horribly hate the idea of being tossed into a "racial category" by someone that doesn't know me, my family history, etc.


It's based on how they self identify


So...what if we all just "self identify" as gay, black, trans, handicapped, etc. to get maximum diversity points and take advantage of this flawed and fraudulent system? Have you given this any thought?


Yeah you can do that, it will just look very bad on you so people don't


Ensuring diversity is obviously a terrible goal. The only sane and ethical goal is ensuring equality. If everyone got exactly the same opportunity and the best based on skill got hired, job done.


Yeah its more or an art than a science, but get metrics based on how they self identify


What if I don't want to "self identify"? Can't I just do my job as an individual, instead of a half-South African woman employee? I don't like this, and I don't like that this is becoming the norm; it does way more harm in the long run than good in my view.




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