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Consider the agricultural revolution of the early 1700s, Charles Townshend, walking around after his cows, noting every poop, taking detailed notes about every poop, and then a year later, what grew where that poop was, and what were the cows eating when they created that poop? His neighbors certainly regarded him as eccentric, having such a fascination with poop. And yet the whole modern world is indebted to him for his odd obsession. And likewise, Jethro Tull's obsession with designing a machine that could replace the workers his father and grandfather had worked with.


> And likewise, Jethro Tull's obsession with designing a machine that could replace the workers his father and grandfather had worked with.

And who would have thought that he could win a heavy metal award with a flute? The man was a true innovator.


yeah, flutes aren't even heavy!

<side note> If I remember how the band Jethro Tull got its name, it is because they had to change the band's name after every gig. The band was that unpopular, and would be told to never come back. Until one day they got lucky, and that day's name was Jethro Tull.


If you think that was good, just wait until you hear about Chris Columbus.


Is there a record of people going adventurous sea explorations and not coming back?

With no acclaim there are few stories. There’s Mansa Musa’s father who crossed the Atlantic from Africa.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mansa_Muhammad

For some reason the failures ground the triumphs.

Of exploration that is, the Spanish Conquest of the America’s being grim.


Grim!


Townsend developed the 4 crop rotation system, not fertilizer.


Do you understand what the 4 crop rotation system is? The key thing is what he did with animals on the fields that were fallow. He brought in animals and had them poop on the fields that were fallow, so in future years they'd be more productive. The poop is a key part of the 4 crop rotation system.


Fertilizer was used for centuries before this. He did not invent fertilizer.


He invented the 4 crop rotation system, which involved the strategic use of farm animals and their poop. You might want to do some research on this.


Townsend did not invent the use of animal poop as fertilizer, or the use of specific animal poops to fertilize specific crops, or rotating crops, or the even combination of the two, unless we completely ignore agricultural practices outside of Europe and pretend that all agriculture was invented in Europe.

But he didn't even invent the 4-year crop rotation system; that was already in use in Holland when he introduced it in England. (http://www.saburchill.com/history/chapters/IR/003f.html)

He was basically the Elon Musk of post-medieval agriculture: taking credit for the work of others because he marketed it (and himself) better than they did.


Your original statement focused on fertilizer and didn't mention the rotation system. This person pointing out that he didn't invent fertilizer is correct. It's not a big deal.


No, I was being light-hearted, but "taking detailed notes about every poop" is the essence of what made the 4 crop system different. His focus on different kinds of poop lead to his focus on turnips, which is what made his system unique. Turnips, poop, crops: a revolution. I didn't think any level of detail was necessary since it was a light-hearted but good example of what the title mentions: "New industries come from crazy people."


Is your claim that the fertilizer industry came from Townshend?


I believe their claim is that a particular way of using fertilizer came from Townshend.


Yet it isn't explained anywhere in his comments what this "particular way" exactly is. I guess it's supposed to be common knowledge, but I'm as clueless on that matter as the downvoted commentators in this thread are. Neither does Wikipedia on "Norfolk four-course system" (which it claims Townshend popularized, not invented) mention anything about the fertilizer, simply claiming that inclusion of a turnip as the fodder crop allowed livestock to be bred year-round.




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