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Level 4 means full autonomy over all normal driving conditions. Waymo does not handle complex construction sites like a normal human driver would, a fact verifiable by many thousands of people. It does not have level 4 autonomy.

Looks like the article got backlash too because the editor inserted an editor's note in quite large font right in the middle of the article clarifying it.


> Level 4 means full autonomy over all normal driving conditions.

Aren't you describing Level 5?

From what I see online, Level 4 means

"The car can operate without human input or oversight but only under select conditions defined by factors such as road type or geographic area"

Waymo has been operating geo-fenced self-driving cars without drivers present. It may not handle complex situations, but that isn't expected out of L4.


Level 5 means full autonomy over all known driving conditions. Including dirt roads, etc.

Otherwise there would need to be a level 6.


What's the difference between "all normal driving conditions" (your definition of Level 4) and "all known driving conditions" (your definition of L5)?


These are not my definitions, they are the SAE's definitions. As anyone can verify themselves by visiting SAE.org


Even with SAE's definition, Waymo seems to be at L4: https://www.sae.org/blog/sae-j3016-update


It would only be the case if their claim is solely evaluated within certain limited areas. With the rest of the road network being ignored.


Level 4 means full autonomy within certain predefined conditions. In Cruise's case, this might be, "Only in certain parts of San Francisco at night." This qualifies for Level 4.


What's stopping someone from predefining it to mean "Only within a specific parking lot"? And then claiming they achieved Level 4?


Nothing. That is the definition of level 4. Level 5 is no restrictions.


Seems like a silly way of assessing levels of autonomy then. Maybe it doesn't make sense to allow it to be predefined to an arbitrarily small area?




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