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Swedish Toxic waste dumpsite in Arica (wikipedia.org)
3 points by vinnyglennon on Nov 28, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 8 comments


Wikipedia has direct links to a subsection, saving readers the trouble of hunting for it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arica#Swedish_Toxic_waste_dump...


> Boliden paid a local company, Promel Ltda., the equivalent of $1.2 million ($3.15 million in 2021 dollars) to receive, treat and confine the waste.

Sounds like a Chilean toxic waste dumpsite.


I imagine you can’t just shift liability by paying.

You need to have an understanding they can actually do what they say.

Just like I can’t pay a 6 year old to drive me car and then blame them if they crash.


This isn't an argument. It's perfectly possible to transfer waste between two entities under a general legal contract. Unless there is specific legislation in Chile that would prohibit this, is there?

And it's nothing like your flawed analogy. No need to use an analogy when the exact situation will do - it's exactly like you can pay a waste disposal corporation to dispose of the waste you created.


Do you have any obligation to ensure it’s disposed of properly by that company?

Can I just pay the homeless guy on the street $1MM to my waste? What if he sets up an LLC?


> Do you have any obligation to ensure it’s disposed of properly by that company?

Unless there are specific laws about it, then not particularly more or less than any other transaction with anybody else. That is to say, probable some diligence, but at some point you can certainly pay others to take your waste. This isn't even remotely unusual. I've paid battery places to dispose of old lead acid batteries, tire shops to dispose of my old tires, a landfill to dispose of lots of stuff from motor oil to broken appliances.

> Can I just pay the homeless guy on the street $1MM to my waste? What if he sets up an LLC?

Why would being homeless bar him from conducting private business like anybody else? What sort of authoritarian communist hellhole do you live in?

Where I live, sure you could do that. And if he didn't dispose of it properly, government regulators would come after him and get that money back. That's how these things work. If they didn't do that, then unscrupulous corporations sure aren't going to pay a middle-man money to not do something that they can not do for free.

How much are you on the hook for slavery, corruption, environmental destruction, and war crimes when you purchased your iPhone, filled your gas tank, bought a pair of sneakers, or ate something containing palm oil? How many years in the slammer and how large a fine can I put you down for?


What capitalist utopia do you live in where homeless people are running legit toxic waste removal operations?

You can’t reduce your liability simply because a dollar exchanges hands.

Those other disposal sites you speak of are authorized and regulated.


> What capitalist utopia do you live in where homeless people are running legit toxic waste removal operations?

One of the ones where I don't have to pry into peoples' personal life because I have no legal requirement or desire to discriminate against "undesirables". Which is just about all of them. Now you still haven't told me about about you.

> You can’t reduce your liability simply because a dollar exchanges hands.

I assure you that people can buy and sell things, including goods, including waste, including liabilities for all sorts of things all the time.

> Those other disposal sites you speak of are authorized and regulated.

Is your allegation that this Chilean company that was paid to take care of this waste not "authorized or regulated"?




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