On: The Citroen Ami – tiny electric car with no boot, 28mph top speed, 46 mile range

[thiht]

> let's buy a car and fuck the planet

There’s currently football matches being played in Qatar in stadiums with AC set to 20°C in 32°C weather. Thousands of people have travelled there by plane.

Me having a car is fine.

[nephanth → thiht]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Not_as_bad_as

[thiht → nephanth]

https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Argument_from_authority

Using fallacies to invalidate arguments should be a fallacy by itself. Maybe my argument is a fallacy logically speaking, but in the real world, not everything is ruled by formal logic. If A is completely negligible compared to B, the « A not as bad as B » fallacy doesn’t apply anymore.

[nephanth → thiht]

Of course it still does.

To me, your argument sounds pretty much the same as "The us dropped a nuke on Hiroshima. Me throwing a molotov at my neighbor is fine."

Sure that molotov is negligible in front of B. Doesn't make it okay

[thiht → nephanth]

A more proper equivalent would be me throwing a molotov on hiroshima the day after the nuke impact. Same victim.

The atmosphere is global, there's no Qatar's atmosphere and my neighbor's atmosphere

[lm28469 → thiht]

The two aren't mutually exclusive

[thiht → lm28469]

Yeah they kinda are. Scales matter. I know the « A not as bad as B » fallacy and in my opinion it falls short when A is completely negligible compared to B, because it’s not a fallacy anymore, it’s just reality.