For some reason a lot of people think SBF had super connections that will let him get away with crimes. A lot of it reads as very politically partisan (he gave money to Democrats therefor they won't prosecute) and not based in reality.
Epstein has been investigated for 20 years, during one of his trials the judge's son was killed by a pizza delivery guy, assassinated after opening the door, Epstein was only caught in 2019.
In the 2008 crisis only one guy went to prison, and he was an Egyptian.
In the HSBC carter money laundering investigations, no one went to prison.
Kerpeles (Mt Gox) didn't go to prison, Michinsky (Celsius) didn't go to prison, and they didn't donate to the current president or members of the board investigating them.
On the other hand both Do Kwon and Kumbhani are fugitives (Terra and Bitconnect).
Now look at who are SBF's and Ellison's parents and who they worked with, and look at who took donations from SBF's mom before FTX and who took money from SBF, and look at what the media are writing about SBF and how they never seem to mention the words fraud or crime or any of these, and if you don't want to put 2 and 2 together after this, then well... there are people who believe in ghosts and others who believe in UFO's and vampires and Santa, so you don't have it that bad, but please realize that your inability to see the truth when it stands 2 inches in front of your face (I assume blindness so I won't call you a shill), does not mean that the truth is not standing 2 inches in front of your face (as I said we're all humans and some believe in gremlins and fairies so it happens to anyone).
>politically partisan
French so I really don't care about American democrats or republicans, and SBF and his guys donated to both so..
Epstein clearly had some kind of blackmail or leverage. He should have gone to jail earlier.
I'm not sure why you think people should have gone to jail in 2008. It was people doing a shitty job. That's not illegal. Similarly, MtGox was hacked. And, IIRC, people loaned Celsius money they then lost, not embezzled.
HSBC seems horrible, but I'm not sure they were able to identify individuals who violated the law beyond a shadow of doubt. It was one of those "everyone can point the finger at someone else" things. But, more importantly, they were still a financially large/successful company. So they could pay a fine and continue operating with new rules in place. Part of paying that fine is an agreement protecting the executives. I agree that happens too often.
I don't see how SBF fits into those. He doesn't seem to have blackmail material. It's not like everyone at FTX can claim it was someone else who did it (he's admitting it to reporters!) because it's a giant enterprise. It's not like FTX cannot be shut down because it's too big to fail/too big to jail.
But, yeah, the news doesn't report people are accused of crimes before formal indictments. Formal indictments wait until the charges are in place. Right now, they are still reconstructing just how much money SBF stole.
But I'll put my money where my mouth is. I'll totally bet that he goes to jail.
I'm sure many people did illegal things in 2008, in HSBC, in MtGox, etc. and I'm also sure SBF will not go to jail.
As I said before that, we will be given by the media a good enough reason why he didn't do anything wrong.
>the news doesn't report people are accused of crimes before formal indictments
Did you seriously just say this? The media spent years saying false things about multiple politicians with 0 evidence.
Like come on at this point if you can't see the corruption then you never will but it's become so obvious it's like they're not even trying to hide it.
I agree someone broke the law at HSBC, although I doubt they could identify who. I doubt anyone broke any law in the economic collapse of 2008 where such law breaking was a major contributor to the collapse (Im sure some people used the chaos to steal money for instance). Other than the hackers, im not sure what law you think anyone involved in MtGox broke.
I'm willing to bet money SBF ends up in prison.
I've never heard the NEWSmedia accuse a politician of violating a specific law with zero evidence. Any examples of it done flagrantly? (I'm sure some reasonable errors slipped through). But even then, it's purposefully much harder for political actors to prove libel or slander suits.
I agree that Epstein should have been stopped sooner and the fact he wasn’t is pure corruption, but he apparently had blackmail material on people in high places. Note that the judge’s son was killed after Epstein died, so if it was related to that case, it was not to protect Epstein himself.
I haven’t heard any claims that SBF has blackmail material. The donations he made are now embarrassing for their recipients and he has no capacity to make future donations. I think he’s going to jail, it will just take some time for justice to work.
