On: Tesla rival Rivian posts losses of $1.7B, with worse to come

[bradyd]

How don't compete directly?

[__derek__ → bradyd]

No overlapping market segments. Rivian makes an SUV, pickup, and delivery van. Tesla makes none of those.

[Octoth0rpe → __derek__]

Is the tesla model X not an SUV?

[__derek__ → Octoth0rpe]

No, that's a crossover. Someone in the market for a true SUV would not consider a vehicle like that.[1]

[1]: Yes, I recognize that this looks like a No True Scotsman assertion, but there are real differences here.

[Octoth0rpe → __derek__]

Wikipedia lists both the model X and Y as "crossover SUVs", though to my sedan-buying eyes the X looks like a standard SUV and the Y doesn't. Not sure what to say. Wikipedia says SUV, my eyes say SUV.

[__derek__ → Octoth0rpe]

The need for the "crossover" qualifier says it all, IMO. It's a slightly taller station wagon, not something I'm going to take 10 miles down pock-marked forest roads.