On: Meta lays off 11,000 people

[chrisBob]

When people talk about EU salaries do they typically mean pre-tax or post-tax.

[ajuc → chrisBob]

In Poland you'd be usually talking post-tax per month but I converted for American standards, so pre-tax per year. You can get more, mind you, that was just the average.

[EricLeer → chrisBob]

pre-tax most of the time, but of course varies per country

[eastbound → EricLeer]

It’s usual to talk in “brut” in France, and it means mid-tax. 60k€ “brut” = 90k TCO = 45k€ in the pocket of the employee.

That’s already a good salary for a mature dev in France (Paris +20%), and going above requires being intrapreneur/team lead/low manager. Americans usually say it’s shit pay.

[distances → EricLeer]

Almost always pre-tax, only exception I know is Italy. They seem to talk post-tax