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> Because people have specific interests they want to pursue and engage with other enthusiasts, without being inundated with other crap.

i suspect this is exactly what the comment you're replying to means.

i too have a problem with how many times i read people crying out "echo chamber" repeatedly as if this is always a bad thing.

i mean, when i have a party, i don't invite assholes.

when we go to bars, we don't invite spazzy people.

i don't invite people who think its oppressive if they're asked to have common courtesy.

i dont invite abusive people who have the social skills of a tantrum throwing 3 year old.

they just ruin the time for everyone. by many of these people's definitions, this is an echo-chamber.

we exist in the real world. i can have parties with friends and discussions with friends, this doesn't mean im somehow _never_ exposed to different ideas--no one ever shuts up about their ideas. not wanting to be around people we find weird is absolutely normal.

at the end of the day, if a website or party or bar is full of shitty behaving people, ill just go to a different space where people behave with basic social skills. thats not weird. thats not an echo chamber.

every bar or club in the world has different expectations of behaviors, its not evil of them, its not nefarious, its not scandalous of them. its just the culture the owners are curating. that isn't some scary echo-chamber. its a completely normal thing that happens _all_over_the_place_ in the real world.

but oddly theres a weird segment of people who are trying to convince me if someone is just constantly rude or spazzy, and im like "yo, this dudes kinda weird" that everyone should always have to be around them. thats just strange and not the norm in the physical real world. its really odd from the foundations.

edit to add: a perfect example of curation is this site that we all spend a decent amount of time on. dang curates the discussion. its not an echo chamber by any rational definition of the term. the site owners and mods have curated the patrons, the environment, the overall tone of the site--and from an end-users perspective, it works very well. its fun. its an enjoyable experience.



That isn't what anyone means by "echo chamber". You're talking about manners, not different viewpoints.


i think you’d find that the vast majority of the time people are removed from spaces due to behavior, not beliefs, despite their personal conspiracy delusions that it’s belief.

as i mentioned above, people who think it’s oppressive when they’re asked to have common courtesy. for example many people have been banned because they can’t stop insulting people of different races—they’re being banned for behaviors, they refuse to have common courtesy. they cry loudly when asked not to be abusive. that’s a behavior. and most of the time these weirdos are banned, it’s because they’re too socially inept to understand basic social skills.




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