> It's exceptionally rare that a revolution is about building the new system, it's actually about shifting the power structure.
So it's not about shifting the power structure, it's about shifting the power structure? You can't shift power onto a structure if that structure doesn't exist.
> But I want a solid description of what sort of democratic control could replace the economic system of capitalism, by building it. Until then, incrementally changing but by bit seems like the only feasible way to discover better systems.
The things that were democratic and non-capitalist that we've already had and are losing.
Unions, (functioning non-capital-serving) universities, well managed utilities, co-ops, cohesive communities, public blue-sky science institutions, public mass transit, collective healthcare, mutual aid networks, a functioning commons, libraries, public education.
Moreover, the important bit is not using every bit of economic, military, propaganda, and espionage power available to destroy the more radical experiments that people try in various parts of the world, and then using your own warcrimes as some kind of gotchya against the systems they're trying.
There's an absolutely massive difference between the power structure that takes hold in a revolution and the rest of the system that comes afterwards, and that's the entire problem with so many of them.
And that other part of the system is the whole thing that needs to be explained.
So it's not about shifting the power structure, it's about shifting the power structure? You can't shift power onto a structure if that structure doesn't exist.
> But I want a solid description of what sort of democratic control could replace the economic system of capitalism, by building it. Until then, incrementally changing but by bit seems like the only feasible way to discover better systems.
The things that were democratic and non-capitalist that we've already had and are losing.
Unions, (functioning non-capital-serving) universities, well managed utilities, co-ops, cohesive communities, public blue-sky science institutions, public mass transit, collective healthcare, mutual aid networks, a functioning commons, libraries, public education.
Moreover, the important bit is not using every bit of economic, military, propaganda, and espionage power available to destroy the more radical experiments that people try in various parts of the world, and then using your own warcrimes as some kind of gotchya against the systems they're trying.