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> You're correct. It is obvious.

So then yes, you agree with everyone else completely, that many artists would be unable to produce certain art, if they were unable to make a living from it.

Great, you agree with everyone else entirely. Not sure why you would be so upset with everyone if you simply agree with everyone's main point, 100%.

> that I refuse to be dragged

You don't have to be dragged anywhere if you simply agree with the point, that you called obvious, which is that many artists could not produce work if they could not live off of it.

This doesn't have to be an argument. You just agree with them, and you called it obvious.



Unfortunately this HN forum is not conducive to long exchanges. (I probably won't read further replies as they slip off the bottom of my workflow here). I appreciate your reply and willingness to have a good banter.

Our difference is that "artists" are driven by complex psychological and spiritual motives, way beyond money, which is a necessary but insufficient component of the artistic life. Some commenters don't like it when I say you're an accomplished craftsman but not a "real" artist if your preoccupation is with money. I can understand why that hurts, especially if one is besieged by brutal, empty capitalism and looming AI predating on your soul.

But I stand by this. And most of Art-history and the philosophy of art bears me out. And my point is that the artist who sacrifices (prostitutes) themselves on that altar of anomie and alienation is an accomplice in their misery - however strong the need to "put bread on the table". We are more than this.


Sorry, but you already said that you agree with the point, and called it "obvious".

So yes, you agree and think the point is obvious.

And now you are just moving the goal posts to something else, using a lot of words, in order to ignore the fact that you just agreed and said it was obvious.




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