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You can argue the "best" point I guess but there are all the large state schools (which can give a very good education if you seek it out), Purdue, Notre Dame, University of Chicago... But probably more around the great lakes than further south.



Carnegie-Mellon, UIUC, Michigan/Ann Arbor, University of Wisconsin/Madison, Northwestern, Ohio State...


Purdue is great, but it's in Indiana and the social policies will continue to disincentivize both workers and investors. a quick list of reasons not to locate in Indian: * abortion ban * no renter protection * strict non-compete's allowed * school funding keeps getting worse


Strict non-competes being allowed is probably the only factor that really matters there.

Jurisdictions that favor renters almost universally have higher rents and a poorer experience for normal renters who don't cause damage and pay rent on time. If you compare the average rents in Indiana[0], which is well known to favor the rights of property owners, against some states with roughly comparable population densities that are well known to favor the rights of renters, like Vermont[1] or Delaware[2], you can see that Indiana is only about 80% of the other two.

The near-total ban on abortion in Indiana is misguided and I believe local voters will move in a more moderate direction sooner or later, but you'll find that social matters generally do not hold as much sway as economic matters.

[0]: https://www.rentdata.org/states/indiana/2021

[1]: https://www.rentdata.org/states/vermont/2021

[2]: https://www.rentdata.org/states/delaware/2021


>Strict non-competes being allowed is probably the only factor that really matters there.

And, honestly, while this can be a big deal in other states--especially if you want to start a competing business--there seems to sometimes be a belief that people don't change jobs in other states. I've worked pretty much my whole career in Massachusetts and non-competes have never been an issue. The one time I had to sign one after an acquisition, it was reasonably scoped.

Mass has very recently, over long-time resistance from some local large employers, put somewhat weak garden leave requirements in place, however. While not ideal, it does mean an employer has skin in the game if they really don't want someone to go to a competitor.


Well, it doesn't seem to be keeping a lot of companies and people from heading to Texas, especially Austin.


Austin is relatively close to California. Both Texas and California have huge populations. What does Indiana have?


Indianapolis is a three hour drive from Chicago which is the third most populous city in the US. Whereas Austin is over 1,000 miles from SF. (Once you're getting in a plane anyway, 1K miles vs. 2K miles doesn't make much of a difference.)


It has brutal winters compared to Austin.


For me, Austin's summers are brutal. Lots of people live in northern states where it snows. You get used to it. I would not in general make a decision about a job based on the weather.


Why not?

Why would anyone not consider climate when deciding on a place they'll be living?


Climate and geography are basically my number 2 and 3 for deciding on where to live, because I like to spend time outside. Number 1 is obviously security of shelter and other resources, including income to procure them.


Well, you may not want to live in Chicago for other reasons. (It wouldn't be my first choice.) But you certainly can have cities with snow that have a lot of recreational opportunities like in New England, Colorado, etc. But that may just be me accustomed to the fact that it will be cold and snowy at certain times of the year so I need to dress properly and have the right equipment to go out.


Sure, and I tried that. But I also tried only ever having to wear a hoodie or long sleeve shirt and I liked that more.

I also disliked having to deal with freezing temperatures and what the freeze/melt cycles do to basically every material, as well as road/sidewalk treatments like salt and other chlorides.


Austin summers are far worse than Indiana winters.


Austin is no where near California. I'm not sure how anyone could even come to such a conclusion. It's literally a 1800 mile drive to San Francisco. Major US cities that Indianapolis is closer to than Austin is to Silicon Valley:

- Atlanta

- Austin

- Boston

- Chicago

- Cincinnati

- Charlotte

- Dallas

- DC

- Denver

- Houston

- Miami

- Nashville

- NYC

- Philadelphia

- Phoenix

- Pittsburg

- Salt Lake City


I think they meant philosophically, not geographically.




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