> It’s not worth making electronics if your users all have randomly shaped random voltage power sockets installed by whoever built their house,
And yet nearly all electronics standards arose through voluntary cooperation. Ever notice the USB socket on your computer? The audio jack? The HDMI port? etc. Did you know that Edison standardized the Edison lightbulb socket, not the government?
> uncontrolled RF emissions,
Again, the free market does not allow one to interfere with other peoples' property.
> and want to pay you in private bank currencies you can’t spend.
Banks solved that problem long ago. The free banking system worked. BTW, we still mostly use PRIVATE BANK CURRENCIES all the time! Amazing, but true. They're called credit cards, bank checks, paypal, venmo, wire transfers, money orders, cashier's checks, etc. Even store coupons are private currency.
> libertarianism requires people to replace how things actually work with brief inaccurate summaries of how it works they fit in their heads, and the smarter you are the more incorrect information you can fit in your head and the more wrong you are.
> Banks solved that problem long ago. The free banking system worked. BTW, we still mostly use PRIVATE BANK CURRENCIES all the time! Amazing, but true. They're called credit cards, bank checks, paypal, venmo, wire transfers, money orders, cashier's checks, etc. Even store coupons are private currency.
To reiterate this point the current US dollar is a private dollar issued by a private bank and funded (essentially) by congress and the treasury. The last time the US had a public dollar was prior to the American revolution.
A lot of people make the mistake of conflating The Fed with the government but it is federal in name only. It is owned by private shareholders no different than any other corporation.
> And yet nearly all electronics standards arose through voluntary cooperation. Ever notice the USB socket on your computer? The audio jack? The HDMI port? etc. Did you know that Edison standardized the Edison lightbulb socket, not the government?
How do you know the USB shaped sockets on your chargers are actually implementing USB, and not something that either doesn't work or burns your house down? It's partly private enforcement and partly customs blocking imports of things found to be dangerous, but you didn't ask customs to do that.
> Again, the free market does not allow one to interfere with other peoples' property.
This seems like a posthoc principle but isn't proven to be one you could actually build a working government on. ie you're saying "private standards are fine" and "this principle can replace FCC radio regulation", but a government only implementing the NAP is just as capable of banning your "private standards" by declaring them harmful. USB is a kind of cartel after all, it's just one we happen to like.
> BTW, we still mostly use PRIVATE BANK CURRENCIES all the time! Amazing, but true. They're called credit cards, bank checks, paypal, venmo, wire transfers, money orders, cashier's checks, etc. Even store coupons are private currency.
Yes, and why isn't that a problem? Because all those private dollars magically have 1:1 exchange rates to other kinds of dollars. That doesn't happen on its own.
(There are other currencies in the world, and currently a bunch of private ones like stablecoins, and you can read in Matt Levine about how they're constantly blowing up and losing investors' life savings and the inventors are on the run from Interpol.)
Preventing fraud is a proper function of a free market government.
> Because all those private dollars magically have 1:1 exchange rates to other kinds of dollars
No, they don't. Credit cards have a 3% fee tacked on. Paypal does, too. Money orders do. Travelers' checks do. Wired money does. All of them do.
> losing investors' life savings
The government's job in a free market is to protect people from fraud. I've said this a dozen times in this thread. You can stop now bringing up more cases of fraud, as it won't help your case.
> No, they don't. Credit cards have a 3% fee tacked on. Paypal does, too. Money orders do. Travelers' checks do. Wired money does. All of them do.
My wire transfers costs $0.85 for any domestic transfer. Credit card is a %, but more importantly it doesn't /change/ like foreign transactions do.
> The government's job in a free market is to protect people from fraud. I've said this a dozen times in this thread. You can stop now bringing up more cases of fraud, as it won't help your case.
But can you base a government on that legal principle without the government then inventing all that other stuff you don't like? Libertarians don't really like consumer protection agencies like CFPB I don't think.
Of course the highest office held by a libertarian in California is a Redondo Beach city council member NIMBY who's trying to prevent people from using their property rights (https://mobile.twitter.com/mnolangray/status/156626436981758...). So who knows what that party believes.
And yet nearly all electronics standards arose through voluntary cooperation. Ever notice the USB socket on your computer? The audio jack? The HDMI port? etc. Did you know that Edison standardized the Edison lightbulb socket, not the government?
> uncontrolled RF emissions,
Again, the free market does not allow one to interfere with other peoples' property.
> and want to pay you in private bank currencies you can’t spend.
Banks solved that problem long ago. The free banking system worked. BTW, we still mostly use PRIVATE BANK CURRENCIES all the time! Amazing, but true. They're called credit cards, bank checks, paypal, venmo, wire transfers, money orders, cashier's checks, etc. Even store coupons are private currency.
> libertarianism requires people to replace how things actually work with brief inaccurate summaries of how it works they fit in their heads, and the smarter you are the more incorrect information you can fit in your head and the more wrong you are.
Have fun debating with me. Good luck!