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> I have to disagree with both. Guns are a constant threat, even in the bluest of cities since there are Red States just a few hours of drive away (if you're not already a Blue City in a Red State which is extremely common). The threat of school shooting is very real. Kids have to go through bs "active shooter drills"... this is not the sign of a healthy society.

Sorry you are buying far too much into the news. I suspect more people are burned alive in housefires from shoddy construction in India, than die in the US to guns.



If you’re gonna wildly speculate then by all means go ahead and make up the most wildest shit imaginable.


It’s actually surprisingly close in absolute numbers. About 20k not-self inflicted gun deaths in the us, and 17k deaths by fire in India. Ofc per capita gun deaths>>fires.


The non-self inflicted is huge though, most gun deaths are suicides.


Correct - though the US doesn’t have a dramatically higher suicide rate compared to countries with vastly lower gun related homicide rates. So excluding non self inflicted rates may provide the more relevant metric for this analysis.


Too late to edit - I meant to write "excluding self inflicted rates", not "excluding non self inflicted rates", though I don't get the impression there was any misunderstanding.


Yep - many people see the "gun deaths" number and assume all of those are crimes (well, technically suicide is a crime where the victim and the perpetrator are the same).


In addition, a hunge chunk of the actual gun deaths are related to drug and drug trafficing.

If you don't deal/buy drugs, and you don't drive through the inner city projects where turf wars are a thing, you can cross that off your list.

I feel very safe from gun violence in the US.


Once you factor those out, I think you are MUCH more likely to be killed by a vehicle than anything else.

And even if you don't, it's about even.


Indias population is X (maybe 7) times more than USA


> I suspect more people are burned alive in housefires from shoddy construction in India, than die in the US to guns

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