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Apple workers vote to join union, a first for the tech giant in US (theguardian.com)
27 points by sandebert on June 19, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 13 comments



> Apple Coalition of Organized Retail Employees – AppleCore – that will be part of the International Association of Machinists and Aerospace Worker

Why are apple store employees going to be in a machinists union?


Geniuses Local #1


This is absolutely terrible for US competitiveness.


If you want to compete with 3rd world country style labor don't expect to stay a 1st world country.


The US competed just fine before the era of unions. Detroit became the wealthiest city in the US in the first half of the 20th century, when most of its auto factories were not under the UAW Union.

Today, Apple generates 1st world jobs in the US, and tens of billions of dollars in export revenue, without unions.


You make it sound like unions did something bad, the owners just moved the jobs to other cities/countries because they were stingy.

> The US competed just fine before the era of unions

You mean when everyone else was still rebuilding after WWII.


No, the Big Three automakers contracted severely on the whole. The owners, i.e. the shareholders, suffered too.

>>You mean when everyone else was still rebuilding after WWII.

The post war era was the era of rising union power, not weak unions. The first half of the 20th century fell mostly outside the post-war era.

Not only did Detroit become the wealthiest city in America, but that wealth didn't come at the expense of its golden geese, which were the Big Three automakers.

So to summarize, the automakers became stronger during the era of weak unions, while Detroit became the richest city in America. In contrast, the automakers became less competitive during the era of a dominant UAW Union, and that culminated in Detroit becoming a ghost town.


That's a lot of correlation and no causation.


How does this explain the gap between wage increases and inflation then? Why does everything cost more but we get paid less (relatively)?


we will become a third world country


Does Apple retail workers have to compete against outsourced labor?


They will compete with AI powered robots with greater frequency.


Unionize everything.




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