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Yes, I am completely disregarding Russian propaganda talking points. Remember how all the way up to February 23rd Russian Foreign Ministry maintained that the West is hysterical and obviously there won't be any invasion?

> From Russia's point of view, NATO is encroaching.

So again, how does Ukraine fit into that when Ukraine was nowhere near being admitted to NATO?



  > Yes, I am completely disregarding Russian propaganda talking points.
But falling hook line and sinker for the Western propaganda talking points? Your bias is showing.

  > Ukraine was nowhere near being admitted to NATO?
At the 2021 Brussels summit [1] NATO stated that "We reiterate the decision made at the 2008 Bucharest Summit that Ukraine will become a member of the Alliance with the Membership Action Plan (MAP) as an integral part of the process".

So the process has been in the works since at least 2008, and recently reiterated. I was able to find that with 2 minutes' googling knowing none of the important keywords.

Honestly, I have no side in this conflict. I don't live in Russia or Europe or any NATO country. I'm just concerned how passively people are taking the sides of their government and selectively disregarding some information yet accepting other information without question, depending on who is spoonfeeding it to them.

[1] https://www.nato.int/cps/en/natohq/news_185000.htm?selectedL...


> But falling hook line and sinker for the Western propaganda talking points? Your bias is showing.

Such as?

> At the 2021 Brussels summit [1] NATO stated that "We reiterate the decision made at the 2008 Bucharest Summit that Ukraine will become a member of the Alliance with the Membership Action Plan (MAP) as an integral part of the process".

And there wasn't any progress in this matter since 2008. It's still not even part of the MAP process.

> I'm just concerned how passively people are taking the sides of their government and selectively disregarding some information yet accepting other information without question, depending on who is spoonfeeding it to them.

Weird that you say that while repeating Russian propaganda word for word.




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