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59 points by lnyan on April 23, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 17 comments



Discussed here a few days ago:

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=31094459


I'm not claiming any connection, but I did take note of the fact that this adenovirus causes gastroenteritis while at the same time there has been an epidemic of gastroenteritis in kindergartens, at least in my general area. The rate is unusually high, with most people I know with kids being affected, and my own kids having it TWICE in the last month.

This could be a complete coincidence of course.


I’ve been seeing this around the news for a few weeks now

Are there any operating theories on where it’s coming from?

Is it just a new kind of adenovirus?


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> children ranging in age from 1 to 6 years old

Can children under 5 even get the vaccine?


Post already flagged. Just posted a theory which was asked for. Neither asked for flags.

I am not even implying it comes from the vaccine. But we have a data point where the Russian vaccine batches had replicating adenovirus, with projections of liver damage. I do not see why a sick person could not spread that to other persons.

Or it could have been a transfection due to co-infection of SARS and adenovirus, where adenovirus picked up part of the genetic code of SARS.

My theory is that it is related to either the COVID outbreak, or the resulting vaccination efforts (which not all countries followed strict protocols). Seems too coincidental to get an adenovirus outbreak shortly after a pandemic. But could be: a new adenovirus.


The kids in the UK weren't vaccinated, at all. So that essentially rules out the vaccine as a cause.


Considering we're in the middle of a pandemic, and that there's no vaccine approved for infants, there's not much mystery there.

Of course they will avoid like plague having to make that connection. Just like they tried to cover up the fact that Sars-Cov-2 is airborne (too expensive to admit it).

Scary that US is not even the first country to report this.


I see some people repeat that but it makes no much sense. We're talking about children 1-6 y.o., mostly too young for C19 vaccination. I know different countries have differing positions on this but I haven't heard anyone recommending vaccination to 1-year-olds. Even WHO recommends waiting until they are 5.


I do not think they are saying the vaccination of the children is the cause. They even mention that vaccines are not approved.

Instead, they correctly write about how the WHO tried to block the "infodemic" that SARS is airborne, because it was not feasible to do much about that which would not be very costly, and may increase panic, which makes people harder to manage and control.

We do not know the effects of long COVID on children, even though health officials opened back up the schools. Again, there are other concerns there than your personal or family's health: if you do not open the schools, then parents can not get to work, and hospitals and police collapse.

From SARS-1, we know that SARS can cause long-lasting kidney damage. But nobody wants to come out and say: "we send your children back to school without masks, and while we said children do not get severely ill from COVID, the effects of long COVID in children was not possible to investigate, nor (cost-)effectively manage.". That makes a lot of sense.


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Being mean to doctors doesn't make a cluster of kids get hepatitis, and a similar cluster is noted in Europe.

Not everything has to go through the partisan filter.


Interesting


As the father of two young children with another on the way, this is a deep fear of mine. Putin has shown himself to be willing to murder people and leave his signature on the killings by using rare nuclear poisons only he has access to. What if Putin say, "You are killing Russian children in Ukraine, we will kill your children with a genetically modified virus in Britain and the United States"?

We may be at total war and not even know it yet.


Although there could be and perhaps have been cases of biological weapon skirmishes, this really doesn't look like one of them. Also try not to anthropomorphize entire countries and large organisations, it makes for a really naive analysis.


I am in no way an expert, but this scenario sounds really implausible to me. Using a contagious virus as a weapon seems like a strategy that would sure backfire at some point when the virus eventually finds its way to your own country.


It would likely backfire, but not by literally shooting yourself in the foot.

If the virus is indiscriminate, and still useful as a weapon, then the host country weaponizing it, will have an anti-dote or vaccination at the ready. When the virus finds its way back to your country, your citizens are already immune.

But coronavirus can be made to discriminate. Militaries have been researching gene-targeted coronaviruses. They can just plug the data people volunteer to Chinese DNA-testing companies into a supercomputer and create a virus which discriminates on race and age, before deciding who to make really ill.


I know of no natural virus that discriminates based on race and I suspect it's really hard to find a smallish set of genes that let you discern, say, Europeans from Russians with high accuracy. I'd like to see some papers about gene-targeted viruses, because I don't believe that they're realistic.


Fear is agenda of news. Keep that in mind and do not let them justify any evil by that.




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