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Being popular is not absolute proof that ideas are right either. That’s why we need to leave room for the unpopular ideas too.



How much room do we leave for phrenology?


Should we fire anyone who thinks phrenology is real? How about flat earthers? Should they be unable to feed or shelter themselves because they’re wrong about something?

Are you right about everything?


I've already decided you're right, now we just need to find out how much room we leave for these topics.


The whole idea of free speech is that there is no “we” who decides what topics are allowed and “how much room” particular topics get. Free speech means it’s free, and people can talk about whatever they want, however much they want.

If you don’t like what people are saying, you can use your free speech to explain why your ideas are better.


Okay so your solution is to give as much room as phrenology wants. If it gets incredibly popular then so be it, let the masses think that certain races are less intelligent due to head sizes.

Who could that possibly hurt.


Phrenology already had its chance, man. Look, the apocalypse didn’t happen.

You think you’re smart enough to determine which ideas should be allowed? How do you know you won’t be the Church burning Galileo at the stake? Hint: you don’t know that. That’s why you have some humility. Ultimately ideas that don’t work will fail.


I love people who haven't read a lick of history.

Sure, Phrenology just died out on it's own. You got it.


Enlighten me. Please do describe the concerted efforts by governments and institutions to ban discussion of phrenology. What was the punishment for unauthorized phrenology lectures? Are you not violating all these anti-phrenology laws right now by even bringing it up?


> Phrenology was banned in Vienna for a variety of reasons, including the overenthusiasm of Gall's followers, and the treatment of women.

https://soundideas.pugetsound.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?refere...

In fact in places where it wasn't banned it flourished.


> The ban seemed to make phrenology more popular, and it spread to other European countries.

Literally the very next sentence. Banning things doesn’t work.

Phrenology died out because it was openly discussed, debated, and debunked. If you are confident you can prove you’re right about an issue, you don’t need to ban anything, you just go ahead and prove that you’re right. When you start banning things people only take that as evidence that it’s some secret forbidden knowledge that threatens the existing power structure and they’re even more motivated to pursue it.




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