“To watch that thing on television, as I did, to see those, those monkeys from those African countries – damn them, they’re still uncomfortable wearing shoes!” Reagan tells Nixon, who erupts in laughter.
A lot of those people voted for Reagan primarily because of his perceived and actual manifest racism and dog whistles, the exact same reason they and the racist children they raised also voted for Trump.
How Ronald Reagan’s Racism Helped Pave the Way for Donald Trump’s
>“The Republican Party has consistently used Reagan for their moral authority, but I think that there are many aspects of the Reagan presidency that do not hold up under scrutiny and cannot be used as the basis for a moral argument for Republicanism,” Tyrnauer tells Esquire. The “huge amount of dog-whistle racism that came from Reagan's own lips,” he says, “was under-reported in the time and has been virtually erased from the popular imagination.”
>Using archival footage and interviews with journalists, experts, and members of the former president’s circle, including his son Ron Reagan, Sunday’s episode examines the ways in which Reagan utilized racism that tapped into the nation’s oldest bigotries while being just subtle enough to be denied. He kicked off his run as 1980’s Republican presidential nominee with an appearance at the Neshoba, Mississippi county fair, where he professed his commitment to states’ rights. Lauding federalism at a campaign could seem reasonable enough, but the subtext is insidious. Neshoba county was infamous for the 1964 Freedom Summer murders of civil rights activists James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner, and appeals to states’ rights have long been used to justify southern states’ refusal to enact civil rights measures. By touting himself as a states’ rights candidate near the site of one of the nation’s most famous hate crimes, Reagan offered voters a racism that was both obvious and unspoken.
Ronald Reagan: No defence for 'monkeys' remark, says daughter
>In a taped call with Richard Nixon, from 1971, that the historian Tim Naftali recently made public, Ronald Reagan described the African delegates to the United Nations in luridly racist terms.Photograph from Bettmann / Getty
OPINION: Ronald Reagan is a symbol of systemic racism. It’s time to rename our high school.
It isn't hard to show that Reagan was a racist. But you haven't connected all the dots. Particularly, you haven't shown any convincing evidence that people who voted for Carter in '76 and Reagan in '80 were motivated by Reagan's racism.
It isn't hard to show that Trump is a racist either, but this is neither the time nor place to connect all the dots, which would involve presenting huge volumes of quotes and evidence that we are all already painfully aware of and sick and tired of hearing.
I only quoted Reagan's undeniably racist words because many of the people here weren't alive when he said them and probably weren't aware of them, and are suffering from the fictional whitewashed image of Reagan that the Republican party propagates, the same way they and recuter also propagate the inaccurate image of Carter as "weak and ineffective", and the homophobic image of Democrats as "limp wristed champagne communists".
He certainly didn't bother connecting the dots of his racism whitewashing claims either, he's not arguing in good faith, and he's linking to videos of racist skinheads to back up his baseless claims and beliefs, so I don't feel I owe it to him.
Man I've completely lost track of whatever point you're even trying to make. I've gone back and read over it again, but you're just all over the place. I thought this conversation was about why Carter lost to Reagan. With regard to that topic, I think there is ample reason to believe a lot of people who voted for Carter the first time didn't vote for him the second time because they were thoroughly dissatisfied with his performance, and scant evidence that it was Reagan's racism that won over Carter voters. Reappraisals of Carter and Reagan years after the fact really aren't relevant.
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> he's linking to videos of racist skinheads to back up his baseless claims and beliefs
I clicked through to that video of "british skinhead". It's actually Tom Scott. Tom Scott certainly isn't a skinhead, recuter was clearly being sarcastic with that remark. He played you, I recommend you slow your roll and be lest hasty with your judgments.
No, I just said he wasn't arguing in good faith, and I was right, which you proved. You're actually the one he played into clicking on his misleadingly-described youtube video link. I already knew he didn't have a valid argument without falling for the bait and clicking on his "racist skinhead" link. Be glad he didn't slow your roll by rick-rolling you.
Racist or otherwise, the USSR has fallen during his second term. Reagan and Gorbachev are heroes in Eastern Europe. Just further proof that US democracy is working regardless, even with an 80 year old president with Alzheimer's disease or a person like Donald Trump which I don't even know how to characterize.
The power void he has created after the US retreated from Syria during his term has certainly emboldened Putin. On the other hand Trump pressured Germany to build a gas terminal and stop relying on Russian gas. He also pressured other NATO members to increase their military spending. Both of which they're actually doing right now. His administration also approved huge weapons sales to Taiwan and the Saudis. These will deter China and Iran on the long term.
P.S. - Racism bad. When it comes to dog whistles and political parties, well... Reagan used to be a democrat. Throwing that card at everybody who votes differently from you is just childish.
Attempt to whitewash history and carry the water of racists all you want, but the fact that Reagan used to be a Democrat is no defense or counter argument of the fact that both Reagan and Trump were/are racist, and voters clearly understood and sympathized with that fact, responded to their dog whistles and klaxon alarms of racism (like "Blacks are Welfare Queens", "Africans are Monkeys", "Mexicans are Rapists", and "Very Fine People on Both Sides"), and voted for both of them because of it, because they were racist too.
Do you say "So" because you disagree that Reagan and Trump are racist, or because you don't believe it matters if US presidents like Reagan and Trump are racist?
You're carrying Reagan's water by presuming it was more about Carter's performance than Reagan's racism, and dismissing the fact that Reagan and Trump are racist by asking "So?"
Exactly what have I said or done by citing historical facts that's worse than the actual racism of the people I deride? Is hurting the feeling of racists by reminding them of their racist history and acts even meaner than that racism itself, in your view? That's exactly why Republicans are currently having such conniptions about Critical Race Theory and the 1619 Project.
A lot of those people voted for Reagan primarily because of his perceived and actual manifest racism and dog whistles, the exact same reason they and the racist children they raised also voted for Trump.
How Ronald Reagan’s Racism Helped Pave the Way for Donald Trump’s
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a34733508/reagans-s...
>“The Republican Party has consistently used Reagan for their moral authority, but I think that there are many aspects of the Reagan presidency that do not hold up under scrutiny and cannot be used as the basis for a moral argument for Republicanism,” Tyrnauer tells Esquire. The “huge amount of dog-whistle racism that came from Reagan's own lips,” he says, “was under-reported in the time and has been virtually erased from the popular imagination.”
>Using archival footage and interviews with journalists, experts, and members of the former president’s circle, including his son Ron Reagan, Sunday’s episode examines the ways in which Reagan utilized racism that tapped into the nation’s oldest bigotries while being just subtle enough to be denied. He kicked off his run as 1980’s Republican presidential nominee with an appearance at the Neshoba, Mississippi county fair, where he professed his commitment to states’ rights. Lauding federalism at a campaign could seem reasonable enough, but the subtext is insidious. Neshoba county was infamous for the 1964 Freedom Summer murders of civil rights activists James Chaney, Andrew Goodman, and Michael Schwerner, and appeals to states’ rights have long been used to justify southern states’ refusal to enact civil rights measures. By touting himself as a states’ rights candidate near the site of one of the nation’s most famous hate crimes, Reagan offered voters a racism that was both obvious and unspoken.
Ronald Reagan: No defence for 'monkeys' remark, says daughter
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-49207451
>The daughter of the late US President Ronald Reagan has said there is "no defence" for racist comments he made in a 1971 phone conversation.
>Newly unearthed tapes reveal Reagan - then Governor of California - described UN African delegates as "monkeys".
>His daughter Patti Davis condemned the remarks in a newspaper article.
>"There is no defence, no rationalisation, no suitable explanation for what my father said," she wrote.
The Myth of the Welfare Queen
https://newrepublic.com/article/154404/myth-welfare-queen
How a Historian Uncovered Ronald Reagan’s Racist Remarks to Richard Nixon
https://www.newyorker.com/news/q-and-a/how-a-historian-uncov...
>In a taped call with Richard Nixon, from 1971, that the historian Tim Naftali recently made public, Ronald Reagan described the African delegates to the United Nations in luridly racist terms.Photograph from Bettmann / Getty
OPINION: Ronald Reagan is a symbol of systemic racism. It’s time to rename our high school.
https://milwaukeenns.org/2020/07/16/opinion-ronald-reagan-is...
Ronald Reagan’s Long-Hidden Racist Conversation With Richard Nixon
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/07/ronald-rea...