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If anyone from the Thunderbird team is reading this can you please default the timezone in preferences to match the OS.



Thunderbird has a proper bugtracker.


This bug has been in there for 10 years.


Ah, classic Mozilla.


Classic open source user. They take the free (as in beer) software and complain that nobody works for them.


Mozilla makes money hand over fist and they squander it. This is unrelated to their finances or the source model of the product.


Mozilla takes donations, so it isn't necessarely free. Also Mozilla is wondering why no one wants to use their software, this is one of the reasons why.


>Mozilla takes donations, so it isn't necessarely free.

This is a wild take. Taking donations doesn't invalidate the fact that it is available to everyone for free. By definition donations are voluntary. No part of Thunderbird is behind paywalls of any sort.


Wonder why they didn't think about feature funding. As in, letting people donate to specific features.


Donations are a small part of their income.


Donations to Mozilla which go to Firefox may be a small part of Firefox's income.

Donations directed to Thunderbird go to Thunderbird, and are 99% of Thunderbird's income.

The income streams are not mixed.


Hmm. Maybe they have already experimented with "Donate to this specific feature if you really like it" style focused donation campaigns.


It's a reasonable request though. Something that definitely shouldn't cost them much to fix.


Hard to know! Composing emails in tabs seemed easy without internal knowledge, but the code turned out to be a trainwreck, to the point that even a funded attempt failed. I doubt it will ever be fixed.


They didn’t do that, though.


What is the current behavior? I never noticed any problems, is that just ignorance on my side?


I'd settle for ungimping the new messages badge, bringing back the older (more compact) tree widget (or at least making it easily styled), or at the very least fixing the whole compacting a folder makes it disappear until restart thing (especially since Thunderbird is now very aggressive about suggesting I compact my folders).

I upgraded from ~60 to 91 and it's been nothing but regressions. I couldn't possibly care any less about a chat client when the actual text editor still doesn't let you do something as basic as toggle word wrap. It's almost as if Mozilla's completely forgotten about core competencies.


"I couldn't possibly care any less about a chat client when the actual text editor still doesn't let you do something as basic as toggle word wrap"

It should be easy to do as well, given that they have an option for it in about:config.


> toggle word wrap

Do they accept PRs?


I don't know how building Thunderbird is now, but last time I tried it I came away with the distinct impression that ascending a character in Nethack is probably easier.

I've never ascended a character in Nethack...


Hey that's unfortunate to hear. There might be some changes soon in the documentation how to build Thunderbird. The build process might become easier soon too. For the current process to build Thunderbird check out https://developer.thunderbird.net/thunderbird-development/bu.... If you do find the time check it out and open issues with your problems here https://github.com/thundernest/developer-docs. Thanks!


You know the last time I dared to even think about potentially engaging the Thunderbird team I regretted it pretty severely. The new messages badge was changed to an unread message count. The official response on the PR (that someone else had opened) was along the lines of "screw you, we know best how to use an email client" and even making it configurable was not in the cards.

In that context why on earth would I bother trying digging into documentation of questionable quality to figure out an archaic build process? Mind you in the decade or so since that issue was raised the badge has been made configurable and can show up to 99 unread or new messages. Nobody ever has more than 99, right?

Trying to dig into the theme stuff was… interesting. The documentation is exceptionally sparse, but the tooling itself was terrible. Things fail silently which means that you often have to restart to render any changes to your theme (instead of uninstalling or reloading it). Of course you'll probably also have to manually reload the theme since it won't persist across restarts if there was some sort of silent failure.

All in all interacting with Thunderbird feels more like interacting with a black box than an open source project. So no thanks, I'll pass on that kind of user hostility.


It is unfortunate, I agree. You'd think that after playing the game off and on, sometimes quite intensively, for three decades now, I'd have been able to finish it once at least.




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