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Ask HN: Alternatives to chess where top human players are better than computers?
6 points by amichail on April 1, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 4 comments
Which games have this property nowadays?


Games that haven’t been given much attention by computer scientists.

If you’re talking about two-player perfect information games (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_information) with players alternatingly choosing between finitely many moves known at the start of the game, I don’t think any game would hold up long today against attempts to write a world-champion crushing program.

That’s likely limiting the set of games a lot more than needed, but I want to rule out games such as Nomic (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nomic), where I think humans still have an edge. Chances are you’re not calling that “an alternative to chess”, though, as it’s quite different from it.


- Sports

- Party games (e.g. Apples to Apples, Jackbox)

- Complex video games like FPSs (with enough mechanics and graphics that aimbots would have difficulty), Trackmania, Elden Ring. They have to be real-time competitions otherwise you can just use TAS

- Simon says


There is a nice video by Wirtual about TAS in Trackmania: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzqq8I3JFz4


Obligatory xkcd https://xkcd.com/1002/ note that it's an old graph. I think the only one left is arimaa https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Arimaa




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