On: Debian decides to allow secret votes

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> would secret voting here make sense? I don't think so. When people are not afraid to speak their mind - then a real consensus can be faster found.

You are swapping cause and effect and are implying that making voting secret creates fear. This is plain wrong.

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Maybe you misread something there? I merely stated, that there is no need for complex secret voting mechanisms - when the group is small and trusting.

Or do you practice secret voting in decision making among your friends?

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> Maybe you misread something there?

I didn't.

> Or do you practice secret voting in decision making among your friends?

Now you are making a strawman. But I'll answer anyways. If I had a simple way to do anonymous polls with friends (e.g. an app) I would certainly use it because it would be a fun experiment.

But this is besides the point. Social pressure exists amongst coworkers, volunteers, friends, families and even couples. A lot of it.

That's why secret voting is useful in many environments even where people trust each other.

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"I didn't."

So can you explain then, where I implyed "that making voting secret creates fear"?

By stating, that there is no need for secret voting, when people are not afraid?

If so, you might want to study basic logic (again). You cannot just reverse statements and implications and jump to conclusions

There can be secret voting, with people scared to speak their minds and secret voting with people not afraid to speak their minds.

And there can be open voting with people scared to speak their minds and open voting with people not afraid to speak their mind.

I think secret voting is only useful, for situations with fear involved. No more, no less.