Doesn't it say more about our prisons that this is a real concern though? That the lack of ability to prevent prisoners from sexually assaulting one another is the expected norm? And it isn't like there aren't women capable of sexually assaulting each other, but I guess that's more acceptable somehow?
You are literally allowing men who sexually assaulted women to say they are women and house them with women.
What percent of male sexual offenders will sexually assault women, vs the general female prison population assaulting women?
You are literally locking foxes with the hens.
On a sidenote, your excusing away of this behaviour under the guise of "it happens anyway" is ridiculous. I wonder under what prison in the world assault and violence is a solved problem. Oh, complete isolation prisons I guess.
> You are literally allowing men who sexually assaulted women to say they are women and house them with women.
We literally house women who've sexually assaulted women with other women, and men who've sexually assaulted men with other men.
> On a sidenote, your excusing away of this behaviour under the guise of "it happens anyway" is ridiculous.
I am not excusing the behavior, rather the opposite: I'm saying that we shouldn't allow sexual assault in prison period. Ever. I think it is ridiculous that we accept it at all.
A lot fewer percent of women assault women sexually than men, and vice versa. That was my whole point.
And we haven’t even begun to discuss the strength differences and if an assault by a penis is different to a lesbian assault…
And We don’t accept it. That’s not why it happens. It happens because it’s not possible to prevent it.
You clearly have some utopian vision of humanity but the reality is different.
To a certain extent that is true and we can't prevent sexual assault in all sorts of circumstances, but I think that is irrelevant. What parent is arguing is that simply having a male incarcerated with females increases the chance of sexual assault so significantly that we need a different solution for transwomen. I am saying that I think it says a lot about how we conceptualize both prison and gender that we find the incidence of male-male and female-female sexual assault in prison acceptable by comparison, because that's what we're saying here: put transwomen in male prison and transmen in female prison.
Besides which, I reject the notion that we cannot do a better job prevent sexual assault in prison. In the US at least, prison conditions are horrifically bad because a significant portion of the population likes it that way. We're a cheap, vengeful, petty people on the whole.
Yes, we can't make it perfect. So what? Perfect is the enemy of good. I think we would be better served by dealing with the problem of prison's high incidence of sexual assault in general instead of just this one narrow case.
