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- David Fravor and his colleagues, are highly credible witnesses of something they observed visually.

- This is certainly a very interesting interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DIUBjvY4PnQ

- There are visual observations, and what are, ( by military standards), flimsy short images/video.

- This analysis partially explains one part of it, without excluding the presence of an object.

- There is also Radar data, but it has not been published or time correlated to the reported visual observations.

Observations:

- These Aliens only seem to want to goof around with folksy US pilots.

- Pilots known to simulate UFO sightings, fans of UFO invasion stories and stories of Russians shooting UFO's and getting shot back. ( watch the interview...).

- These Aliens show up exclusively during their training time and with sightings restricted to areas with US carrier groups exercises.

Also...

- The Aliens don't show up with their "Tic Tac's" or seem to be interested on the Ukraine conflict.

- They don't care about EU or Latin America citizens...

- Don't want to play around with the Russian or Chinese Air Force.

- They don't show up in the data of any of the existing Military satellites capable of reading a bus ticket on the ground from 400 km.

- These Aliens don't show up in the observations of the thousands of professional and amateur astronomers, that scan the sky a total of thousands of hours every night, using some of the most exquisite optical instruments available.

I would say: They either don't exist, or if they do, they are pretty dumb and we have nothing to fear.




These observations have also been made by military adjacent organizations in UK, France and China. It is definitely not a US pilot specific thing.


References?


The sightings are military classified aircraft, explaining why they appear during trainings. The govt would rather have you believe they are UFOs than the public suspecting where tax dollars are being funneled, and enemies being weary.


> "These Aliens"

Why do you say aliens? It seems more likely they are experimental human developed aircraft.


Because some of the reported changes of speed are not within any technology conceivable for the next 100 years. Like physically doing Mach 200 with no noise or sonic boom and show up 80 Miles ( the way point of the interview...) after a few seconds. ( And how did they know where the way point was?)


Fair enough. If you haven't seen these Navy patents, they could be an explanation:

https://patents.google.com/?inventor=Salvatore+Cezar+Pais

Of course, you may have seen them and be in the camp that they are not achievable for the next 100 years. That is completely reasonable and I appreciate that point of view.


Is there hard evidence of objects performing these maneuvers? I keep hearing anecdotes like yours making it sound like we have irrefutable evidence of extraordinary tech.

I don’t think we have any such thing…


The linked article and video suggest that there is an object behind the glare that the tracking pod is locked on to. I suppose it will be challenging to gather irrefutable evidence if an object is capable of these maneuvers, but the several videos and the radar data is enough refutable evidence to warrant the discussion of it/them being real.




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