On: Norway Chess cancels Alexander Grischuk

[agambrahma]

Eh, punishing individuals like this seems pointless, especially _after_ they've made their personal stance clear.

Or at least, it doesn't "advance the game of chess", which is what organizers should care more about.

There is probably some creative middle ground to be found here, such as awarding them without recognizing Russia, etc.

[throwaway5752 → agambrahma]

This is not a case of punishing individuals. From one of the source links from the linked article: "Norway announce that no Russian players will be able to play in the 2022 edition of the event"

[s1artibartfast → throwaway5752]

Individuals are clearly punished as well. This is like saying civilians killed by a bomb weren't harmed because the intent was to harm the state.

By your logic, Ukrainian individuals aren't being harmed because Russia is invading a country, not the individuals.

[throwawayfuture → agambrahma]

> Eh, punishing individuals like this seems pointless

I feel the same way about Ukranian citizens who are being forced to flee their homes.

[random314 → throwawayfuture]

Fyi - You are not countering OP, you are supporting his point.

[toolslive → agambrahma]

They have been creative in the past too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_1990#...

[lupire → toolslive]

It happened just 3 months ago when Nepo played while Russia was under sanctions.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Chess_Championship_202...

and of course the same thing happened in the Olympics a few weeks ago!

[Mo3 → agambrahma]

Yeah giving them the EU passports and just attributing them to „EU“

[seszett → Mo3]

There is no "EU passport", just 27 national passports that also have "European Union" written next to the issuing country. It's only up to individual countries to issue their passports, also Norway isn't in the EU anyway.

[Mo3 → seszett]

I am referring to the EUs plans to issue passports. I'm not informed beyond having heard this.

[dahfizz → Mo3]

Neither Russia, Ukraine, or Norway are in the EU. You may as well make them play for Madagascar; it makes no sense.

[mdoms → agambrahma]

Oh look another HN Russia sympathizer telling us literally any intervention is pointless.