- aggression of foreign countries regularly happen, did you remember Iraq with the lie of mass destruction/chemical/biological weapons? Afghanistan with the lie that it protect Osama Bin laden? Libya and Syria in a more "European" way (witch means a bit less publicly announced, with more discretion and low information). Ukraine is just the last one in a long row;
- in all west, and almost all the world, protests against neo-liberal govs have spread to a point that many fear (counter)putsch by angry crowds, now they are almost silenced;
- EU, after decades of push and pull, was about to consider Russian Fed. a partner, now they are back under the NATO umbrella witch actually is more harmful than useful for us Europeans...
- China is the actual winner: with Russia blocked by the wast China is it's sole strong partner option, and for China that means the ability to access far more natural resources from Russia and also far more hi tech military gear and skill, perhaps to a point of being able to technologically surpass USA, a thing so far impossible;
- with the war, hyperinflation, energy issues etc became "because of the war" instead of "to push the Green New Deal".
Long story short: most government of the world need a war, most people of the world need peace. But as always most people are unable to see their own enemy, not the other peer with a different uniform on the opposite side of the front but the one well at their own army head.
This very post is part of that propaganda: asking people to fight an in-winnable, and already obviously lost war, is asking to damage themselves for the sake of the west. Much like what happen in WWII in UE, where "the allied" decide to destroy anything, their own soldiers life included, to face devastated countries far easier to be politically conquered thereafter. If Ukrainian do want the good for their own country since it's evident that the war is lost they should not fight but instead welcome the winner and do their best to became part of it's establishment, doing so let them protect their country in the immediate from war destruction, in the short terms in sovereignty terms (anyone can oppress, but you can oppress more a devastated and defeated enemy than one that's welcome you), and in mean/long term sabotaging the invader from the inside.
Did you see colorful revolution? The so called "Arab springs"? Di you try too see the cui prodest (who benefit from them)? Well, now the plot is essentially the very same and the fact that the blackbird is actually black does not means that the crow is of another color. The very first thing to do to win a war is understand what's your enemy. The enemy actually is at our head as of the one at Russian head. It have a name: neoliberalism. The same people that try a nazi putsch in the USA in the '30s (JP Morgan -led), the same one that help original nazi even when the WWII was already started (from IBM to Standard Oil), the same mind behind "Operation Unthinkable" and "Operation Dropshot". The same who kill millions of Americans and British soldiers for their own profit.
The idea that one should accept being under a madman, a dictator and cede all your current political rights with no fighting seems like a shitty way to go, notwithstanding your opi iin that neoliberalism is just as bad as crony dictatorship.
The fact that Putin is aggravated and that Russian troops are stacking casualties, seems to counter your claim that the war isn't worth fighting.
That's true if actual Ukrainian gov is a Democratic ones, witch is not. Actual gov is a puppet-government of literally actors turned politicians [1] probably planted by some neoliberals (especially seen the links between various Ukrainians and Austrian neo-nazi AND clerical politician and businessman) with a bit of propaganda.
Actually Ukraine was spoiled of anything by a small oligarchy that before was Russian backed and after western/neoliberals backed and both equally steal anything they can. For Ukrainian Citizens a western puppet-government or a eastern one does not really change much, BUT a physically destroyed country for what it remain instead of a just badly shaped one makes a big difference.
That's the same for Kazakhstan, Kazakhs people do not see any difference before and after the failed coup and that was not much start to ignite because of Russian evil actors nor western backed evil actors but just because of skyrocketed energy prices, skyrocketed because the local dictatorship decide to follow the western neoliberals ending price-enforced prices to switch to a free market:
https://www.energyintel.com/download?issueId=0000017e-2c65-d...
The very same move by EU commission that skyrocketed the EU gas and electricity prices, blaming Russia perhaps to avoid much social unrest.
In the actual state of things Ukrainian can fight back better under Russian Federation NOT as a defeated nation but as a nation that freely decide to join and because of that demand and pretend a small freedom, slowly working from the inside to elicit more. The alternative is just something good for USA and UK who benefit from a long conflict because they fortify their grip on EU and justify they big internal economical mess with another war. All, of course, against our own people interest. Not differently than Putin propaganda inside Russian Fed. to ensure a better grip on his people against his own people interest.
Long story short: who benefit from that war are just the various form of dictatorship in charge in various part of the world, western world formal (but not substantial) democracies, more and more formal dictatorship themselves, who loose are the people of all various nations, more or less.
[1] not joking see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Servant_of_the_People the plot and and who made it, Vladimir Zelenskiy, actual President, was the main actor, "the President", Serhiy Trofimov (First Deputy Head of the Administration) the executive producer, even Ivan Bakanov actual head of Ukrainian intelligence was the lawyer of Quarter 95 studio!
- aggression of foreign countries regularly happen, did you remember Iraq with the lie of mass destruction/chemical/biological weapons? Afghanistan with the lie that it protect Osama Bin laden? Libya and Syria in a more "European" way (witch means a bit less publicly announced, with more discretion and low information). Ukraine is just the last one in a long row;
- in all west, and almost all the world, protests against neo-liberal govs have spread to a point that many fear (counter)putsch by angry crowds, now they are almost silenced;
- EU, after decades of push and pull, was about to consider Russian Fed. a partner, now they are back under the NATO umbrella witch actually is more harmful than useful for us Europeans...
- China is the actual winner: with Russia blocked by the wast China is it's sole strong partner option, and for China that means the ability to access far more natural resources from Russia and also far more hi tech military gear and skill, perhaps to a point of being able to technologically surpass USA, a thing so far impossible;
- with the war, hyperinflation, energy issues etc became "because of the war" instead of "to push the Green New Deal".
Long story short: most government of the world need a war, most people of the world need peace. But as always most people are unable to see their own enemy, not the other peer with a different uniform on the opposite side of the front but the one well at their own army head.
This very post is part of that propaganda: asking people to fight an in-winnable, and already obviously lost war, is asking to damage themselves for the sake of the west. Much like what happen in WWII in UE, where "the allied" decide to destroy anything, their own soldiers life included, to face devastated countries far easier to be politically conquered thereafter. If Ukrainian do want the good for their own country since it's evident that the war is lost they should not fight but instead welcome the winner and do their best to became part of it's establishment, doing so let them protect their country in the immediate from war destruction, in the short terms in sovereignty terms (anyone can oppress, but you can oppress more a devastated and defeated enemy than one that's welcome you), and in mean/long term sabotaging the invader from the inside.
Did you see colorful revolution? The so called "Arab springs"? Di you try too see the cui prodest (who benefit from them)? Well, now the plot is essentially the very same and the fact that the blackbird is actually black does not means that the crow is of another color. The very first thing to do to win a war is understand what's your enemy. The enemy actually is at our head as of the one at Russian head. It have a name: neoliberalism. The same people that try a nazi putsch in the USA in the '30s (JP Morgan -led), the same one that help original nazi even when the WWII was already started (from IBM to Standard Oil), the same mind behind "Operation Unthinkable" and "Operation Dropshot". The same who kill millions of Americans and British soldiers for their own profit.