Russians are not exactly going to care either way....
They literally are calling Ukrainians Nazis, and claiming they are committing genocide on unarmed Russian civilians... They are dehumanizing Ukrainians so the Russian soldiers can justify killing Ukrainians...
Either flee, or fight/resist/help... Don't think that you and your family can just hide peacefully in your home -- with no weapons -- and not be raped, abused, murdered, or otherwise harmed. It's war. Military tactics have made them view you as less than human (or monsters) so they can rationalize not treating you as such. You might not encounter such mistreatment by the first group that finds you, but eventually someone will take out their pain and suffering on you.
Run for your life, or fight/resist/help, as your personal ethics and situation will allow.
This isn't a dehumanization tactic, it's a fearmongering one. They're calling the Ukranian government pro-nazi because they're playing on the fact that it legitimized ultranationalists who want to ethnically cleanse Russians from the east, and their response to large neo-nazi paramilitaries like the Azov Battalion, was to give them official support and incorporate them into the state, nazi symbolism and all.
Of course, Russia doesn't actually give a shit about 'oppressed ethnic Russians', and has turned a blind eye to its own ultranationalists going across the border to train and fight. But this isn't the type of propaganda you think it is. It justifies the fight to conscripts who were lied to and told they'll be participating in brief peacekeeping.
Particularly galling considering the Ukrainian president is Jewish, his grandfather fought the Nazis in the Red Army and lost a great many members of his extended family to the Holocaust:
Even more galling, the fact that Vladimir Putin has been funding neo-nazi and assimilated groups like the Rassemlement National or Eric Zemmour in France, or the AfD in Germany.
Nazism (in understanding of the Russian propaganda) is not equal to antisemitism. To see the used pattern replace Jews with ethnic Russians and Holocaust with 8 years of Donbas shelling. They literally tried to paint the Donbas war as an act of genocide from the Ukrainian army, though it's hard to call them successful in this regard.
This is propaganda BS. The Russian government tries to paint itself a protector of Ukrainian people oppressed by a small number of neo-Nazi and the puppet US-controlled government. Luckily, it's not only words. Not only they a really careful to minimize civilian collateral damage, they haven't even bombed living quarters of the Ukrainian army on the first day of the invasion in the hope of increasing rate of defections.
Yes, they call the Ukrainian government Nazis. They are avoiding civilians because it's already a very borderline world way. If Russia throws one nuke, or engaged in blatant war crimes, the west would be more willing to be involved
Why are you presenting an opinion of a far-right marginal politician as an official position of the Russian government? And why do you engage in dehumanizing tactics? No, they are not devils in flesh who can not wait but to perform some war crimes for love of it and do not do it only because of fear for the Western reaction. They try to win over the loyalist parts of the Ukrainian population and to lessen dissent in Russia.
It's dehumanizing Russia state a fact that Russia is dehumanizing Ukrainians?
I can't follow your logic.
I linked to a BBC clip that was heard by hundreds of thousands of people (or more). While he might not be Putin himself, he is a prominent politician in Russia. If you believe Russia has free and fair elections, then he must be influential of a large number of people, and even if he's "far right", he's certainly not "marginal".
Putin himself has also made statements that Ukraine is committing Genocide of Russians [0].. so does that make Putin far-right as well? Are Putin's comments even the official position of the Russian government? He is, after all, just a
"politician" himself....
I'm not claiming "Russians" are war criminals just looking for an opportunity, I'm saying that if you're in a country being invaded... do not count on the invading forces to follow international conventions and treat you like an unarmed combatant when they see you... While most might -- you only have one life, and it only takes one soldier to end it. I would suggest people in such a situation flee, or resist.... not sit around and hope that soldiers in war will act like good human beings to an unarmed innocent bystander.
> Luckily, it's not only words. Not only they a really careful to minimize civilian collateral damage, they haven't even bombed living quarters of the Ukrainian army on the first day of the invasion in the hope of increasing rate of defections.
This is bullshit. It’s like when the US role play the white knight and say they don’t kill civilians. War is bloody and confusing. If you drop bombs, you are certain to kill people, some of them without wanting to. If you start a war, you own it, blood and all. Stop being such an hypocrite.
No, I do not. But I detest the dehumanizing tactic wildly used by both sides. You can easily verify how the Russian army acts on the ground in respect to civilians using a ton of videos shot by Ukrainian citizens.
Random Russian soldiers not being rabid beasts does not put them on the good side. It just means that even in Russia, not everyone is either purely evil or good.
But they have so much restraint. Commendable. If only their humanism had prevented them to invade a sovereign country without even declaring war properly.
They literally are calling Ukrainians Nazis, and claiming they are committing genocide on unarmed Russian civilians... They are dehumanizing Ukrainians so the Russian soldiers can justify killing Ukrainians...
Either flee, or fight/resist/help... Don't think that you and your family can just hide peacefully in your home -- with no weapons -- and not be raped, abused, murdered, or otherwise harmed. It's war. Military tactics have made them view you as less than human (or monsters) so they can rationalize not treating you as such. You might not encounter such mistreatment by the first group that finds you, but eventually someone will take out their pain and suffering on you.
Run for your life, or fight/resist/help, as your personal ethics and situation will allow.