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To be honest, the USA is a kleptocratic oligarcic republic with the facade of "democracy". Even the founders held democracy in a great ill repute.

And in the USA, it was first deemed that only landowning white men could vote. Then in 1865, Black people were permitted to potentially vote, but in effect they simply couldnt.

Then women were allowed to vote in the 1920's. In a rights-review, black men were seen as higher standing than women.

And Jim Crow laws were in full effect until 1965. It took 100 years to go from 'kind-of-mostly-not-really ending slavery' (unless you get 12 angry white guys saying guilty, then you qualify as a slave. still do, btw) to the federal govt moving military in to enforce desegregation. Now it's just hidden.

And fast forward, in 1974, women finally apply and get credit (including credit cards, loans, etc). My SO was born in that year. And, not too long afterward in 1985, the Credit Check was created.

But if you're a white guy working in tech, its all cool.




> Then women were allowed to vote in the 1920's. In a rights-review, black men were seen as higher standing than women.

Did you actually mean to respond to my comment? I acknowledge this and mention Switzerland, where I lived for years, due in part to its refusal of women's suffrage through much of the 20th century (1990 or so in one canton). That seems to make this definition of democracy, if used to preclude the US, rather questionable if not inaccurate.




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