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Windows 12 Development Reportedly Begins in Earnest Next Month (tomshardware.com)
13 points by WithinReason on Feb 20, 2022 | hide | past | favorite | 7 comments



This article came about because Swift on Security made a joke about Windows 12 requiring 2 TPMs which was a joke. Retraction tweet: https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity/status/14954646585091727...


> Swift on Security isn't a heavy humor account by any means

Is the author reading an alternate universe Twitter? Tay is an incredible shitposter.


They are testing a desktop watermark for unsupported configuration, so it does seem like someone in Microsoft isn't happy with people bypassing the cpu and Tpm requirements.

Perhaps that cat is out of the bag for Windows 11 and so they want to move ahead with Windows 12 that would see cpu and Tpm requirements fully enforced.


Hopefully this will be the last one...


With the latest changes to Win11, it sounds like they're trying to move to a paid subscription model. Thus all the hardware lockdown. So I would expect more versions in an attempt to accelerate the progression.


I think the hardware lockdown is driven by the need to speed up development efforts and software engineers not wanting to support legacy hardware since it mean too many design level compromises.

The paranoid voice in the back of my head says that Intel/Amd are pushing them to cut support for hardware. I’m running an i7 laptop with a decent SSD from 12 years ago as my daily driver and >90% of the time it is surprisingly very smooth.


Cutting support for non-TPM capable hardware is a nice side effect, as is being able to use TPM manufacturer attestation [1] for DRM and anti-cheat.

IMO the real goal is to revive Microsoft's Palladium technology [2], which is awful and incredibly user-hostile.

[1] https://oofhours.com/2019/07/09/tpm-attestation-what-can-pos...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Next-Generation_Secure_Computi...




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