My personal opinion: it will change in the same way as it changed when Russia invaded Crimean Peninsula - almost no one remembers, no one cares, it changed nothing outside of Russia/Ukraine. The world forgot.
And the world's largest natural gas wells still flow under Russian control. The world may not have forgotten, but it still stood aside & did(does) nothing.
If people caring about you does not matter, that is a sign you're heading towards nihilism. You likely need to go for a walk and choose to do something in the direction of finding a sense of community or spiritual rejuvenation.
Just like the Russo-Georgian War of '08. Interesting coincidence, it happened while the Chinese Olympics were going on. Are we due for a repeat while all(most) eyes are on China?
From the rethoric you hear from EU leaders and the US president, I don't expect NATO to take any direct military action, because blowing this conflict to a full-scale war between two of the main military powers would catastrophically disrupt the global economy.
Furthermore, I don't think one would find enough public support for going to war with Russia in most of those countries, which would make a sitting president willing to get directly involved, wildly unpopular.
> From the rethoric you hear from EU leaders and the US president, I don't expect NATO to take any direct military action, because blowing this conflict to a full-scale war between two of the main military powers would catastrophically disrupt the global economy.
So just keep giving into the lunatic demands of a nation-state mafia?
Here in the US, the military industrial complex would use it to drive funding, sow fear, and keep "strong on defense" politicians in power. It also serves to distract from the abject failure of governments worldwide to properly handle Covid.
However, I have been lied to repeatedly by "news" organizations, so why not use the power of the internet to see how things really are? I did a search for live webcams based in Ukraine, and it looks to me like things there are actually quite normal. People are walking around the public squares, there are people skiing on the slopes.
Is there really anything more than political shenanigans to keep Ukraine out of NATO happening? I have reason to doubt it.
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If there is an actual invasion, I agree with alfanick, nothing much will change.
I'm suggesting eu should promote more environmental friendly alternatives and be less dependant on Russia and use the current situation as one of the reasons for an extra push.
We tried being dependant and it didn't work. We're already having the downsides from it.
With the additional hope that we're pushing environmental friendly innovation in the EU.
Like it or not. Do you have a better solution? They already shot airplanes and killed eu civilians. Recurring threats to check eu war responses, killed with Plutonium on our territory and killed thousands of Ukrainians since 2014.
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So I'm throwing a question back, since complaining is easy: "what would be the better solution according to you"?
> We tried being dependant and it didn't work. We're already having the downsides from it.
May i know what downsides are you referring to?
> Do you have a better solution? They already shot airplanes and killed eu civilians.
Not sure who are you talking about here. Shot planes? Who shot planes? Killed eu civilians? Who? Who killed thousands of ukrainians?
> what would be the better solution according to you"?
Well, it depends on solution yo what we are looking for. Generally speaking I’d suggest EU to focus on internal issues instead of supporting colour revolutions (yeah, particularly the one happened in ukraine)
Well, I had hoped not to live to the moment where we use movies as an argument in seemingly serious discussion.
Hopefully "Home Alone" or "Die hard" didn't shape your picture of our world.
> And if you're not aware of the gray zone conflict since 2014 and that thousands of people got killed on Ukrainian soil because of Russia.
I'd suggest you to substantiate claims like that - "because of Russia". Not everyone is a product of propaganda and readily believe in anything without any evidence.
> No "suggestion" for a "better solution", just ignorance of facts that happened/are happening.
That's would be great if you bring up facts to support your claims instead of throwing patronising phrases about education.
For those other sources of information. I should remind you about the following:
> The cheaper to produce, the cheaper to use it for propaganda.
A video documentary with witnesses, CCTV footage, interviews and people identifiable as the researchers/KGB agents, documents tracing them, ... Makes perfect sense as source of information.
Additionally, you should realize that the US releases information to deter Russian action. If it doesn't happen, the odds are in their favor that they actually succeeded ( we'll see, since they release satellite imagery regularly).
As such, Satellite imagery backed claims of US > claims of Russia.
You shouldn't fix that date as an absolute. It's a current best guess estimate. You should know this by simple logic reasoning, so I'm just stating the obvious here.
Unless you are watching CNN - it's not "russian frendlies" who are evacuated but women and children. They are evacuated due to heavy shelling and provocations made by ukraininan army or ultra-nationalistic paramilitary groups.
