>I got a refund and I know my friends who got theır refunds when they forget to cancel subscriptions in time. It's also well known policy of Apple to refund you right away.
That doesn't excuse deceptive tricks used to prematurely start subscriptions. Many people don't bother chasing refunds. Anyways, you didn't address the issue: Apple says it's a three day trial, but the fine print says it's effectively a two day trial. Is that not an accurate assessment?
>I'm having hard time understanding why are you so bitter about
Sorry if I wasn't clear. The page I linked previously[0] says "3 months free. Apple TV+ is included for three months when you purchase an Apple device"[1]
Now, let me ask. When referring to purchasing products or services what does the word "included" mean to you? If english was your second language, what would you take "included" to mean in this context? Maybe you'd look the world up in the dictionary? Let's see -
Google says 'comprise or contain as part of a whole' and gives the example "the price includes dinner, bed, and breakfast". Merriam-Webster has a similar definition and gives this example: "The price of dinner includes dessert." Cambridge gives this example "The fee covers everything, babysitter included."
And so on. See the problem?
>The cancellation policy is not in the fine print at all, it's right there next to the cancel button. Where exactly it needs to be?
Again, refer to the page I linked with the ad copy regarding AppleTV+. I'm not sure what page you're referring to(?)
>Just return the device if this doesn't work for you.
That's not the point. The topic was (generally) about dark patterns and misleading wording. I'm just giving two examples which counter the notion that Apple isn't also guilty of it. I'm not "bitter", and as I mentioned I generally love Apple's products and services.
I don't know what to say really, go buy something else. I have no issue reading the offer details and IMHO the terms are clear and easy to understand but if that's not the case for you get a refund and buy from somewhere else.
In my opinion, the wording is not intended for deception but for mood uplift. It answers the following question: Interesting device but what I'm going to watch on this? Answer: No worries it comes with this service so you can start using it right away, go to the bottom of the page for the details.
That doesn't excuse deceptive tricks used to prematurely start subscriptions. Many people don't bother chasing refunds. Anyways, you didn't address the issue: Apple says it's a three day trial, but the fine print says it's effectively a two day trial. Is that not an accurate assessment?
>I'm having hard time understanding why are you so bitter about
Sorry if I wasn't clear. The page I linked previously[0] says "3 months free. Apple TV+ is included for three months when you purchase an Apple device"[1]
Now, let me ask. When referring to purchasing products or services what does the word "included" mean to you? If english was your second language, what would you take "included" to mean in this context? Maybe you'd look the world up in the dictionary? Let's see -
Google says 'comprise or contain as part of a whole' and gives the example "the price includes dinner, bed, and breakfast". Merriam-Webster has a similar definition and gives this example: "The price of dinner includes dessert." Cambridge gives this example "The fee covers everything, babysitter included."
And so on. See the problem?
>The cancellation policy is not in the fine print at all, it's right there next to the cancel button. Where exactly it needs to be?
Again, refer to the page I linked with the ad copy regarding AppleTV+. I'm not sure what page you're referring to(?)
>Just return the device if this doesn't work for you.
That's not the point. The topic was (generally) about dark patterns and misleading wording. I'm just giving two examples which counter the notion that Apple isn't also guilty of it. I'm not "bitter", and as I mentioned I generally love Apple's products and services.
[0] https://www.apple.com/ca/apple-tv-plus/ [1] https://imgur.com/a/jwAJANz