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I wasn't including Hawking radiation because, however likely it is considered, it's still not a confirmed prediction, and the theoretical basis for it is not rigorous (since we don't have a consistent theory of quantum gravity to back it up, just various heuristic arguments). (Also, even if it does exist, it is negligible by many, many orders of magnitude in the scenarios under discussion here.)

Also, if Hawking radiation does turn out to be confirmed, it might end up that the radiation does carry information from inside the hole. The quantum effects that are involved in Hawking radiation, at least as we currently understand them, violate the conditions that ground the "no information can escape from a black hole" theorems in classical GR.




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