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If your problem is with the Red Hat developers, and the fd.o developers, and the GTK developers, and the Debian and Arch and SuSE and Ubuntu developers, and the DBus developers - maybe your problem is not actually with any of these developers but a mistaken idea of how open-source development ever worked?

Or what, is everyone except you under thrall to Lennart Poettering, master wizard?




I have never criticized most of these.

I have very specifically only criticized Red Hat developers. I have no problem with any of the others and they don't show the same problems.


I'm replying to a post in which you specifically called out Wayland and D-Bus, and your criticism of GTK and fd.o is all over this thread. Your lack of criticism of SuSE developers appears to be because you misremembered when/how they switched to systemd - because they did, relatively quickly.

But that raises the real question: If the problem is systemd, and the problem is so bad, why do you only blame Red Hat and not the every other distribution that switched to it? Do you think they were all victims of Tricksy Lennart, or?


> I'm replying to a post in which you specifically called out Wayland and D-Bus, and your criticism of GTK and fd.o is all over this thread. Your lack of criticism of SuSE developers appears to be because you misremembered when/how they switched to systemd - because they did, relatively quickly.

And you also brought in SuSE, Arch, and KDE, which I never criticized to make your argument that I simply hate everything work, which is quite disingenuous.

> But that raises the real question: If the problem is systemd, and the problem is so bad, why do you only blame Red Hat and not the every other distribution that switched to it? Do you think they were all victims of Tricksy Lennart, or?

I do not, and have never blamed distributions for switching to systemd.

They can use what they want and it's neither their fault nor problem that systemd and other Red Hat projects are known to create dependencies upon one another for ill technical merit.

I have criticized Red Hat projects for creating dependencies on other Red Hat projects for political, rather than technical reasons; the rest is simply your putting words into my mouth to make a straw-man argument function.


I haven't seen any of these supposed Red Hat projects that have dependencies for political reasons. If that were really true then it would be trivial for anyone to remove those dependencies, and there wouldn't be anything for anyone to complain about. Any way you slice it doesn't seem like a cause for alarm.




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