Do you have a concrete example that wouldn't (a) be suitably handled by Wise, Xoom or a wire transfer and (b) isn't out of a sanctioned country and (b) isn't out of a country where the transfer fee would be prohibitive? If so, could you quantify?
Is it even good for this? You have to buy the coins from someone else, meaning if you did it domestically you're still net the same level of welfare. If you traded them internationally, you can just buy USD.
This is yet another hand-wavey claim, and what I asked for was something concrete, tangible, measurable.
> You won’t even update “14yrs” which is just a clear factual error.
2008 to 2022. Just rounding by a couple months.
> So despite what you say, you will not be “all over it”. You have no interest in changing your mind or in engaging in genuine discussion.
I have no interest in slapping crypto on the back when it hasn't done anything but crime, grift and regulatory arbitrage. Bitcoin is the official currency of the alt-right and yes, it's now older than your average high schooler. [1] Just one, concrete application is all I ask.
> Stored wealth, memorized seed words and regenerated on the other side.
Of course its possible for one or two people to benefit but net net the Ukranians either (a) traded amongst themselves in which case the net welfare stayed the exact same or (b) they traded with people abroad in which case they could have chosen literally any asset on earth, many of which outperformed Bitcoin and other cryptos.
> There was also an interview with someone relying on BTC in Venezuela too because their currency is worse.
An anecdote is not a substitute for data, and Venezuela decided to dollarize, not bitcoinize. 66% of transactions in Venezuela are USD denominated now due to a groundswell of popular support. [1] They didn't bitcoinize. Because the dollar is better.
> You’re rounding by multiple years, especially if you consider ETH.
I'm rounding by a few months. That there are recent developments doesn't roll forward the clock on launch day. The iPhone launched at the same time as Bitcoin. That's what a killer product looks like.
It’s pointless to continue - you asked for “just one thing” then come up with reasons why the use case I gave doesn’t count. It wasn’t about trading, it was about being able to store value without needing trust in a central authority.
It’s hard to get dollars in Venezuela which is why this guy was relying on BTC. I never claimed BTC was superior to the dollar.
The iPhone is a product, Bitcoin (really blockchain and programmable money more broadly) is more akin to the web in 1996. It’s a protocol for money.
You can believe what you want, the nice thing about economic bets is it doesn’t matter.
You gave me a bad example haha. One Venezuela persons poor substitute for the USD they wish they could have is hardly a killer app. If you could come up with a good one you’d be wealthier than bezos.
So despite what you say, you will not be “all over it”. You have no interest in changing your mind or in engaging in genuine discussion.
You won’t even update “14yrs” which is just a clear factual error.
[0]: getting wealth out of a corrupt country for one