On: Ask HN: Why hasn't JVM become the defacto implementation for dynamic languages?

[mtogo]

The JVM is mostly nonfree, controlled by Oracle, and isn't easily or readily available on systems other than Windows. I cringe whenever i see an application of some sort that relies on the JVM, as i know there's a rather small chance of that application working properly.

In theory it's great, but in practice it sucks.

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The JVM is available on Linux and Mac OS X, too.

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Sure it's available, but it's error-prone to install, often an old version, and generally breaks all over the place.

[Aloha → mtogo]

There are other implementations too, like IBM J9 and GNU Kaffe. I remember using J9 in place of Sun Java when I was a desktop Linux user.

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Oracle has demonstrated a certain eagerness to sue alternative implementations, so I'm not sure those really get around the issue